Mid Tech. knife making on the 1911 Bowie, and the field test.

We're moving along. Soon, we will be assembling knives.

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Here's the heat treating set-up. My buddy Bob Hook loaned me his Paragon programmable atmospheric oven. With it you can program a heat treating sequence, turn on the argon and get repeatable quality control. I found it reasonably easy to use.

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I am able to get five blades in at a time. For the 154CM blades I set the oven to 1900 degrees, for the 1095 material, 1475 was used. Many heat treating recipes can be found on-line, I found the ones from Paragon most useful. The blades on top are being pre-heated so they don't drag the furnace down too much when blades are changed out.

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Blade stands are used to hold the blades in an up-right position for even heat distribution. They are an option you can get with the Paragon.

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After soaking at 1900 degrees for 30 minutes the 154CM blades are removed from the furnace one at a time and quenched. I preheated the Parks 50 quench oil to 120 degrees by putting the quench tank on the furnace while it heated up.

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I closed the door of the furnace between blades to preserve heat while quenching.

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The quench tank is a stainless steel buffet warming tray from our local restaurant supply house. The blades are quenched and held in the oil till no longer smoking.

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I laid them out on paper towels to drain and cool to room temperature while I treated the rest.

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I put the blades in my freezer for 24 hours. There has been a lot of heated debate about this in the past and this post is liable to spark some more. Mike Norris recommends it in his heat treat recipe for his very popular stainless steel damascus. He seems to have done some studying on it. I can't say for sure if it makes a better blade but it can't hurt as long as I don't get any quench oil on the moose meat and the blueberries my wife picked.

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Next, they go into my oven for the first tempering cycle, 300 degrees for 2 hours. After that, 275 degrees for two more hours. My wife, Angel, doesn't mind blades in the freezer but using our kitchen oven for tempering is where she draws the line, so I bought my own at a garage sale. It also comes in handy for cooking horn for handles and other things. I could have programmed the tempering cycles into the Paragon but this way is a lot more efficient as twenty four blades fit into this oven at once.

In the next post, we will be doing some assembly.

Thanks for looking, hope you like it.
 
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Great progress Mark. I've been watching to see if you would get this knife together. I thought it was a great idea when you first posted a while back. You've done a lot of layout and planning with this and it shows. Congratulations on getting it up and running.

Fred
 
Great progress Mark. I've been watching to see if you would get this knife together. I thought it was a great idea when you first posted a while back. You've done a lot of layout and planning with this and it shows. Congratulations on getting it up and running.

Fred

Hey, thanks a lot Fred
 
Very cool indeed. I want one! I'd like more of a full tang somehow, but understandably this would be tricky. Love the pics. Keep it up!
 
Very cool indeed. I want one! I'd like more of a full tang somehow, but understandably this would be tricky. Love the pics. Keep it up!

Hi Mateo, Thanks, it is not permissible to engage in commercial activities on this part of the Forum so I will not speak to the first part of your comment, I can, however, address the second part. The solder I am using has a tensile strength of something like 16,000 PSI and with a tight fitting slot and the stainless steel pins it all comes together to make a blade to grip frame attachment that is high in torsional rigidity, which is to say it is hell-for-stout. I did all the math at one time to know how strong the joint is but I have forgotten the figures. We have done some testing on it and will do some more, keep posted.
 
We are ready to hand-fit the blade to the grip-frame slot.

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I have an antique lapping plate that I use for a surface plate. I hand file the slots in the grip frame to accept the tang of the blade for a tight fit. I had roughed out the slot with my manual milling machine to remove most of the material. I'm using one of the grip frames as a guide to keep everything flat and level while I file the slot of the other.

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A fixture is used to hold the blade and handle in alignment while I transfer the tang holes to the grip frame.
Each blade is clamped into the fixture one at a time and mated to a handle. The hole in the tang is located...

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...and the grip frame clamped into position for drilling.

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A dummy pin is used in the first hole to hold everything on location while I drill the second one.

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This batch is ready for soldering.

Next time, we will do that, thanks for checking in, Mark
 
The blades and grip frames have been paired-up and fit together.

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Soldering the handle to the blade.

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The pin holes are checked for alignment.

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A gauge is used to make sure the blade and the grip are in line.

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Here's a shot of the solder joint.

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Ten knives ready for the pins. The holes will be cleaned out with a drill bit and stainless pins peened into place

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The knives are sand blasted to make them ready to take the Duracoat.

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Cleaned up and ready to go, from here on out they will be handled only with rubber gloves.

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Using the air brush to apply the Duracoat. Duracoat is an epoxy coating designed for military style firearms. It's supposed to be good for 10,000 holster draws.

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Three even coats are applied to a thickness of 3 or 4 thousandths.

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In twenty minutes they are dry to the touch, and they are fully cured in 72 hours.

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In the mean time handle scales are cut and finished with polyurethane.

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Micarta is durable and available in many colors, here we have green, brown and green/black canvas Micarta.

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Engraving is done with a pantograph.

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All dressed up and ready to go. The SPEC-OPS Combat Master sheaths are a perfect match for these knives. They come in four great colors, black, khaki, jungle camo and desert camo.

Thanks for watching, hope you liked the tour. Any questions?
 
Absolutely fantastic! Such a great idea. Did you say that there is an actual magazine in the handle?
 
Absolutely fantastic! Such a great idea. Did you say that there is an actual magazine in the handle?

You can carry an extra mag in the knife or the survival clip which carries a diamond hone, magnesium/ferric fire starter, syn. sinew, fish hooks, needles, Leatherman micra and an LED flashlight. More pictures soon.
 
Really great thread Mark, I have really enjoyed it! :) :thumbup:

Was gonna mention that I have found Park50 to work best in the 70-90F range. But I know it is often a "little" colder up north of here ;) so you might have to preheat the quench oil anyway. Just food for thought.

Very cool final product! :cool:

BTW- Love your T-shirt, where did you get that made?

***It's hard not to notice---- the white beard, making really cool toys way up north... and aren't you only a stones throw from the North Pole (Alaska that is ;)).... LOL :D ***
 
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Really great thread Mark, I have really enjoyed it! :) :thumbup:

Was gonna mention that I have found Park50 to work best in the 70-90F range. But I know it is often a "little" colder up north of here ;) so you might have to preheat the quench oil anyway. Just food for thought.

Very cool final product! :cool:

BTW- Love your T-shirt, where did you get that made?

***It's hard not to notice---- the white beard, making really cool toys way up north... and aren't you only a stones throw from the North Pole (Alaska that is ;)).... LOL :D ***

Thanks Nick and everyone for the props.

Also, thanks Nick for the info on the Parks 50. I will be doing some comparison testing on different heat treat recipes on the 154CM including commercial heat treat with cryogenics. I am also taking the knife to Kodiak on a serious field test. I have a feeling the commercial HT with cryo will be the best on the stainless, I will keep you all posted.

The T-shirts are made for us by
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They do a great job.

You're not the first one to make the comparison to me with Santa, I used to get it a lot more before I got back down to fighting weight (I lost 93 pounds to get back into shape for hunting)

Anyway, thanks a lot, regards, Mark
 
The most rewarding part of all this, for me, is when I am ready to ship.

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Here's the batch we have been building, all dressed up, and ready to go.

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Here's one with my classic Colt.

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Here's a shot of all the goodies inside the survival mag. The door is a diamond hone, a magnesium/ferric fire starter, fish hooks, needles, synthetic sinew for snares, bow string, sewing and fishing and a Leatherman Micra are all inside. We have an led flashlight on the lanyard.

I had a great idea for future knives, I am going to add water purification tablets to the survival kit.

I'm taking one of the knives on a three week field test to Kodiak on a deer hunt. We are going to give it a hard core test in a salt water environment. We're going to butcher deer, clean ducks, fish and ptarmigan. We'll cut brush, split kindling, clean clams, and start fires, the whole thing. I'm going to really abuse it with batoning and hacking away at stuff.

I will let you know how it goes. Thanks for watching.
 
Great project and very creative. Lots of detail and planning. Great to see it all come together and Look so good !!
 
Those are some sweet knives Mark. I saw them several years ago at blade and thought what a great idea, congrats on the patent.


steve
 
Thanks for the 'in-depth coverage' documenting all of your hard work, the fruition of your idea and the end result(s). :cool:
 
I missed your reply somehow Mark... Thank you for the info on the printer! I am definitely going to look into them.

Glad you took my post as being silly. HUGE congratulations on losing the weight!!! :eek: :thumbup: Trying to imagine carrying around two 45# plates all the time--- You've got to feel soooo much better now (except the being hungry part ;)). Good for you Mark, that is one hell of an accomplishment.

The finished product with all the goodies is awesome. :)
 
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