Military Busses

Matteo Escobar

Matteo Escobar

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Has anyone ever seen a military Busse on the aftermarket? I have never seen or heard of one. I find this strange considering that according to Jerry, 80% of all Busse knives that leave the shop are military pieces. So what's the deal? Where are all of these knives? Do the various military organizations have to promise not to sell these knives to the public? Just a curious thought.:)
 
interesting, i did not know that. I wonder where they are going. I will have to check into that, since I am the postman and they must go through me, cuz US mail is the only way to go. I had to deliver mail to afghanistan once, does that count.:confused:
 
If one unit got together and decided to do a small buy on a Busse Variant, would you be the guy to sell off yours? The Desert Storm Fighter and Airborne Fighter are two military models that made appearances to us, the SOUL was another and the Artic team knife was one more. So while they are rare and secret some slip through the net and into the trough
 
I'm not saying that they don't exist. I am saying saying that I have never seen one BEFORE it was offered to the public. Have you?
 
Also, I'm pretty sure Jerry never said that 80% of the knives leaving the shop are specifically military models or military variants. There are a lot of "normal" Busses that leave the shop enroute to military members. Additionally, that number probably fluctuates in relation to "foriegn policy" occurances. During wartime and during periods where Busse Combat is donating large quantities of bladeware, obviously that would tip the scales toward more military orders.
 
Originally posted by Matteo Escobar
I'm not saying that they don't exist. I am saying saying that I have never seen one BEFORE it was offered to the public. Have you?
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Nope :(
 
There have been some that have shown up now and then.

One not long ago was one Jerry had made for an Airborne unit if I rememeber correctly.

Sorry I don;t know the link right off.
 
Spearhead,
Oh yes, he said that 80% of orders are military and 20% are civilian. You are correct, he did not specify if that 80% was "off market" and not availiable to the public, but that is how it came across. To back this up is the new SJ thread posted by Jerry. 17 finishes? I can think of five off hand: satin, double cut, black (both crinkle and smooth), desert, and jungle. That leaves 12 finishes that we have never seen. I take that as we have never seen the majority of Busses.
That 80% quote was posted here on BF. I don't remember which forum. It may have been here, General, For Sale, GBU, or another but is was posted. If the post has not been edited, it's in the history.
 
Originally posted by Matteo Escobar
I'm not saying that they don't exist. I am saying saying that I have never seen one BEFORE it was offered to the public. Have you?
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Yes. I have. It is a knife that is very similar to a proto JWBirch and I designed about 6 months ago for Jump Master use. Jerry sent me a pic to illustrate how close the two designs were and as a result of that pic, John and I decided not to go ahead with the design as at some point we may be able to pick up the knife that Jerry had already designed. It was a design that he designed and made for a specific military unit (Army) and it has yet to be released as an over run offer to us "civilians".

Does this answer your question?
 
Originally posted by Matteo Escobar
Spearhead,
Oh yes, he said that 80% of orders are military and 20% are civilian. You are correct, he did not specify if that 80% was "off market" and not availiable to the public, but that is how it came across.
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I'm not debating that the quote has appeared here. I have seen it as well. It would behoove you to read simply what is written and stop reading into things. This causes confusion.

Jerry does a lot of specific military work... the military being what it is, and specific units having the specialized missions they have, it doesn't surprise me that there is a lot of variation in "options" for military units. Just because an option is possible does not make it financially feasible to release the way the ordering process worked in the past. Nobody in their right mind is going to send one knife to the coater for a camo crinkle coat. I'm sure there is a minimum number of knives for that to be profitable. This is partially why the ordering process is changing.

Forgive me if my tone sounds caustic. But, it really appears that you are trying to stir the pot needlessly. If that is not the case, disregard my "abrasive" tone.
 
"Does this answer your question?"
No.
I'm not talking about a proto, I'm talking about THOUSANDS of knives that are supposed to be out there.
 
Again... do you actually read anything I write before responding to it?:confused:

I said that John and I designed a proto that was nearly identical to a knife that what already in production as a special military model for a specific military unit. This is just one instance. I don't pretend to be privy to every model that leaves the shop or to every unit Jerry does work for. I cited this as an example that would satisfy your inquiry somewhat. I guess it didn't.
 
I'm not trying to stir the pot Spearhead, that's your job. Too many cooks in the kitchen......I'm just curiously raising a valid question, which the answer is certainly not clear. I'm a Busse collecter and fan (fanatic), and I'm very curious about all of these unaccounted for knives. I know that your knee jerk reaction is to go on the offense, but relax. I'm just asking what I think to be a good question.
 
Good question yes... provided that you actually read the answers it elicits. If you refuse to actually read the responses and answer after only partially reading things, your follow up is pointless at best.

In short, if you want answers to questions, you may want to start by letting people who can answer know that you will actually read what they write and not give their efforts a half-read and then misrepresent their efforts in the following post. At this point, you are giving very few people a good reason to go to the trouble to answer you.
 
All right, I'm sorry. I did not fully read your post concerning your proto blade that you submitted. But that doesn't alter my question. Why has not one military variant ever shown up for sale on the secondary market before it was presented by Busse? As I said before (talk about not reading peoples posts fully), I am not saying that they don't exist. I'm asking where the hell they are. How do you explain the 12 finishes that noone has ever seen?
 
I picked up a serrated bolo heart E from a certain Marine here on the forums. Does that one count?
 
Whatever. You answered 10% of my question. You are the original flamer. You derail any thread that raises a question that you PERCIEVE to be anti Busse. It's getting old.
 
Originally posted by Matteo Escobar
Why has not one military variant ever shown up for sale on the secondary market before it was presented by Busse?
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They do. (period end of statement)

and I know of what I speak ;)

You have to be diligent and keep your eyes open. Sometimes they hide in plain sight :D:D
 
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