Tonie, which Military did you drill? Many don't have liners on both sides and/or many don't have the skills to drill. Should you drill into a military that lacks a metal liner to anchor your screws, chances are you will eventually be disappointed in the results.
I'm happy your are safely able to work your mili in thrusting applications. Neither knife is ideal for that as they yield little margin for error..ie. loose hand. Obviously they are capable of thrusting...I'm not disputing that. A lack of a deep choil or crossguard IS a consideration however.
It is important to realize that thrusting never comes into play 99.9% of any knife work...but is a consideration for SD considerations...especially for newbs.
Zen, I'm not trying to start a fight here, but again I'm going to ask you, what are you basing your opinions on? The Military I modified was a linerless model and I carried it that way for several years and it's still just as tight as when I originally modified it.
I simply taped the clip in position then drilled through the screw holes with a drill bit of just a slightly smaller diameter than the screws. When the screws were inserted they self tapped the handle material. I did this all free hand. If anybody wants to try this and have an extra margin of hold, put a drop of superglue in the hole.
Oh, I apologize for the lack of pictures, I don't have digital capabilities, I'm really old fashioned. The clip that I modified was one of the straight ones with the big hole between the screws that went over the pivot pin.
And when it comes to your statement about thrusting with the Military or the Police maybe I'm misunderstanding you but your statement seemed to be specifically targeted at the thrusting capabilities of these knives but what you said above can be true of a folder or fixed blade. There are any number of self defense knives that don't have deep choils or cross guards. And I agree with you in general. The trick here is to learn how to reinforce the butt of the knife against your palm. Instead of criticizing the Military and Police specifically maybe you should make that a general critcism of any knife without these attributes.
Finally, when you say that 99.9% of knife work doesn't involve thrusting what are you basing that on? I would freely admit that of all the knife encounters I've been involved in not one of them led to bloodshed, as each time I've drawn a knife the attackers backed off and ran. However, in ten years of training in Phillipino style and American Bowie ala Keating we've found that thrusting is quite useful and effective.
Maybe your experiences have led you to other conclusions, that's fine. Maybe your experiences are different than mine, maybe they're more real world, that's fine too. I'm willing to listen to any voice of experience. But I'm laying out my experiences upon which I'm basing my positions so others can decide for themselves how to judge them. But you're not, you're just making unsupported statements presenting them as facts.
You may be the greatest bladesman I've never heard of, but that wouldn't mean a whole lot, I'm not acquainted with all that many knife practitioners.
So what are you basing your statements on?
