Milsurp warhorses of history- K98, M38, K31

Does my heart good to see orphans going to a good home.

The whole surplus thing is kind of a neat story. Former tools of past wars and politics, they now find homes where they are enjoyed for hunting, self defense, civil unrest, and for just looking good.


munk
 
Damn son, nice collection!
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hehe, those pictures aint 1/10th the rifles.

heres about 1/3 of what i had at the time at last years cleaning weeks. it took me 3 weeks to do about 50 a week. most of the ones pictured before are newer than the pictures in the link. after the first week of cleaning and documenting each gun i gave up and stoped taking pictures.
http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7496

i just got these garands from CMP today, there service grade winchesters. they wanted 700 each but there already selling for 1500-2000 on the open market. one is unique because its got a great deal of winchester parts and a NM op rod. the other has some shooting competition stickers from who knows when. now that i look back i should have ordered my 8 per year limit of winchesters and international harvasters.
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I miss my Garands; sold them down the river. I'd like to get a CMP, but you know the old story; just add money.




munk
 
those were not cheap, 1400 total. BUT, there already selling on the open market for 1500-2000 each!
 
So CMP sells different grades? Many years ago when a CMP Garand was way less than 400 there were many collector rifles simple handed out at random. I also heard many were handpicked by staff/ collectors.

I have a M1A but no Garand today.


munk
 
yeah, theres every thing from recievers, woodless, rack, field, service, correct, and collector.

besides having the correct numbers on the parts every thing above a service grade is pretty much the same.:D prices range from 295 to 1400 or so.
 
I was naive enough to buy a Garand built on a CAI receiver, for $500 UGGGG!:mad:
Of course, it doesnt run worth a hoot.
I am now faced with a couple/three options:
Buy a CMP, and keep the CAI for the Springfield parts that are in it..

Buy a CMP reciever, about 135 bucks, and have it assembled for another 120-150 bucks

Part the CAI out to a local Garand wizard, and put the dough toward a CMP.

To add insult to injury, I bought a Kahr Arms/Auto Ordnance M1 Carbine for
my g/f and our 2 respective sons to shoot this past Sunday. Because I was spooked by my experience with the Garand, I bought this new manuf. gun rather than a WWII era weapon. Well, guess what.....
I doesnt run worth a crap either, it doesnt want to feed. I called Kahr, and they are overnighting 2 new manuf. 10 rd mags to test the weapon, no charge. At least they have a can-do attitude, and seem genuinely interested in getting it running. More to follow on this gun.

I guess my point is that sometimes military weapons can be a crap-shoot, particularly if you havent done a ton of homework.

DaddyDett
 
KaBar, amazing Garand images. I've got to hit CMP.

Thought I'd share.

TOP: Walnut K-31. Treasure. Check out the bayonet?
no. 2: Finnish M-39 "sneak", made in 1968. Note the correct green leather sling.
no. 3: Yugo M48A/98 Mauser w/waffenamps & Yugo bayo.
no. 4: plain 'ol M-38 Mosin Nagant, but I know the headspace is OK. :D

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Closeup of K-31 walnut & Finn M-39 birch

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Pointy ends. Need a replica M-39 bayo

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Theres a Bura Movie Model and my fave Chainpuri in there for scale.

C&R's. I hope some other nation doesn't dump more must-have rifles this year.

Maybe CMP will have M-1 carbines... it's rumored.



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Hi AA:

Nice collection.

I have a rifle that I believe is a Chinese model 53. It looks like a copy of you picture of the M-38 Mosin Nagant. The guy I bought mine from said it was a copy of a russian rifle. Are they related?

What is CMP and where is their site? I have a garand and m-1 carbines, but you can never have too many.

Thanks, Steve
 
Steve Poll said:
Hi AA:

I have a rifle that I believe is a Chinese model 53. It looks like a copy of you picture of the M-38 Mosin Nagant.

Thanks, Steve
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The Chinese model 53 appears to be a copy of the M-44- very similar but with permanent bayo attached.

http://www.empirearms.com/

has one for $225, whereas a Russki M-44 is $50-$90.

I guess they are more rare. I am no expert, so double check....


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http://www.odcmp.com/

click on "sales"
 
Ka Bar...

I look at you and see myself... Mirrors are funny things

Seriously.. nice collection - got any favorites?

Nice Para Carbine btw, and that Garand has immaculate rifling up front. I don't think i've seen a bullet stick out that much up front before.

I also like your gun racks. - good idea, cept you have to dust em.

kuraa pokha, manmaa naraakha
Jeremiah
 
Seriously.. nice collection - got any favorites?

Nice Para Carbine btw, and that Garand has immaculate rifling up front. I don't think i've seen a bullet stick out that much up front before.

I also like your gun racks. - good idea, cept you have to dust em.
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its hard to say what my favorites are some time i buy 3 guns a week so its always my newest toys. i favor usgis and a old mossburg 590 that was a gift.

the gunrack was actually a book case that my dealership was throwing out.

this guns my most accurite, its a sweede mauser thats been tweeked. i whish i still had the picture handy but it has ALOT more bullet sticking out the end than that garand does. that fryingpan and camshaft were at 100 yards with steel sights. theres actually 6 shots in that pan, not 5.
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Nice collection, Kabar.

Munk, I have never seen 20 rd mags for a carbine, 10's, 15's and 30's yes.
Who has em?

I really hope that CMP does do M1 Carbines.
Not a cartridge I would like to rely on in combat, but alot of fun as a plinker/paper killer.
I would love to have a couple more, but the 600 to 1000 dollars
asking prices around here are just out to lunch.

DaddyDett
 
Wow, you guys have some great collections!

Thanks for the good links too.

Any scoop on the CMP 1903's? I don't mind the older ones, as long as the sn is high enough to avoid the heat treat issues.

Here is my only full trim milsurp at this time. The others are sporters, or just collections of parts. They are all Swiss.

My Swiss 1911 long rifle-

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Take care,

Tom
 
ive herd there pretty rundown but i havent seen one yeat. im about to order a few though,

i baught a 1903a3 partskit along with my smith corona. all correct, matching, except for the reciever. i basically neeed a reciever and a stock to get her running. the cool thing about this kit is that everything is from 44 and every thing is NEW in the wraping. the only thing i removed was the barrel to check it but i did that verry carefully and then rewraped it.
 
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