Mineral oil vs Vasoline

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Ok... I am using Mineral oil now & heard it dosn't turn rancid! Is it also good for lubricating the joints on folders? I have used a very thin coat of Vasoline on all my knives previously & have to say that after 10 years stored in a chest in a damp basement I have yet to see a spec of rust on em! But, I am trying out the Mineral oil now...just a very thin coat I might add. It is food grade Mineral oil. Just wanted to know everyones opinions for use on the joints or is 3 in one oil better?:confused: Thanks!
 
You talking in the pivot or just coating the blade for storage?

I use mineral oil all the time for my pivot lubing.

You might want to try out some paste or epoxy on the pivot area. It works awesome (kidding).
 
I use Tuf Glide, which is mineral oil and it is great. It is good for lubrication in the pivot. I have never used Vaseline, but that wouldn't be much different than a good grease.
 
Thanks Joe Dirt! So you are really saying that mineral oil on the joint works ok? If so I will now start doing it. Thanks!:thumbup:
 
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USAFSP said:
I use Tuf Glide, which is mineral oil and it is great. It is good for lubrication in the pivot. I have never used Vaseline, but that wouldn't be much different than a good grease.
So, you are saying mineral oil is ok for the joint area? Sounds ok to me!:thumbup:
 
Oh you Couger Allen..who ratted me out? I was just getting some great info and now I am buried deep in the Tomb!:thumbdn:
 
pogo said:
Oh you Couger Allen..who ratted me out? I was just getting some great info and now I am buried deep in the Tomb!:thumbdn:
Not really....I think this is where you'll get some knowledgeable answers. If all you're looking for is a high reply count, then probably not the best forum.
 
I started using mineral oil on all of my khukuris a few years ago. It is great! I actually now use a mix of mineral oil and clove oil. I think I mixed 32 oz of mineral with an 1.5 oz bottle of clove oil. It smells great, and seems to cling just a little better. Neither of these oils goes rancid. Both are food grade safe and now I use them on all of my carbon steel blades. It works well on pivots, although I feel that the less lube you use in your pivots and blades in general, the less crud you attract, especially the pocket crud that oiled folders attract.
To better answer the question. I use it, I love it, and you can use the blades on food without fear of petroleum products getting into your chow.
In general I feel it is one of the best oiling choeces out there. YMMV and JMHO ;)
 
They use mineral oil on barber clippers. They some in a kit I received that had an electric beard trimmer. I've used on pivots of knives and as a coating on the blade. That wipes off very easy though.
 
Mineral oil and Vaseline are the same chemical class. They are very clean, single chain hydrocarbons (they are not completely clean, so the occasional branched chain or aromatic is mixed in). Vaseline simply contains longer chains so it is more viscous. The next in this progression is Paraffin wax, which is obviously even more "viscous".

They are both equally harmless. The Vaseline will rub off less easily, obviously, but as long as they cover the surface, they will protect equally well. Same goes for the pivot, do you like grease better or oil? Take your pick.

They protect against rust by simply forming a mechanical barrier to water and oxygen. Things like Tuf-glide, Miltec etc. on the other hand usually have a chemical group that actually bonds (chemisorbs) to the metal surface while the other side (of the molecule) is some hydrocarbon or even better some flurocarbon which repels water and also forms a barrier against oxygen. They offer more complete and longer lasting protection, but usually they are also not as harmless either. They are usually called metallophilic (or MP) oils. The big advantage is that they will creep underneath water so that you can not trap water underneath the oil film. Other oils like engine oils (which I like to use on my pivots) have usually anti-oxidants as additives. They will scavange the oxygen trapped in the oil or on the surface. But if you are careful and don't let pits develop and dry the blade before you apply the oil, you should be fine with mineral oil. For lubrication specifically formulated oils have additives which increase lubricity. Again, some oils like Militec bond to the surface and reduce chance of mechanical break down of the oil film. Mineral oil should work just fine for your pivot, but you might find other oils to work even better. Mostly a matter of personal preference I would say.

If you want some pretty long lasting, harmless protection for your blade, you can heat some mineral oil and dissolve some paraffin wax in it and apply it while still warm. It will leave a very thin wax film. Way too much work for me though. I simply have an empty tin can that I have stuffed with an old T-shirt, so that a little bit sticks out, into which I have dribbled at least 100 ml of mineral oil. I simply wipe down my blades with that T-shirt/can after use. I use synthetic engine oil for my pivots. Synthetic oils usually have a slightly better lubricity and the additives usually found in engine oils to increase lubricity further and reduce oxidation might help a bit, too...at least that's what I am telling myself. I have never done a stringent comparison test.

Hope that helps.
 
What an outstanding reply, HoB! You should consider putting together a lubrication and storage/rust prevention FAQ, since we see so many threads on this .... make a great "sticky" for this forum.
 
Dog of War said:
What an outstanding reply, HoB! You should consider putting together a lubrication and storage/rust prevention FAQ, since we see so many threads on this .... make a great "sticky" for this forum.
Amen Brother! He really knows his stuff for sure!!! Great info and Thank You!:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
 
pogo said:
Oh you Couger Allen..who ratted me out? I was just getting some great info and now I am buried deep in the Tomb!:thumbdn:

So you deliberately posted in the wrong forum?

But hey, you didn't get any good replies here, huh? :rolleyes:
 
ArchAngel said:
It works well on pivots, although I feel that the less lube you use in your pivots and blades in general, the less crud you attract, especially the pocket crud that oiled folders attract.

On the other hand, mineral oil seems to be of the crudus magnetus family of oils -- it's definitely a gunk attractor compared to things like Tuf Glide, IMO. My pivots don't get gunky with Tuf Glide anything like mineral oil.

I don't think there's any reason to use mineral oil on a pivot unless for some reason you're uncomfortable with some of the oils that have better lubricity and attract less gunk, perhaps because you want an oil that is food safe.

Joe
 
You are absolutely right, Joe. Mineral oil is a pretty heavy oil (heavy refers to density, but it correlates with average molecular weight and therefore with viscosity and volutility, how quickly it evaporates). Many formulations like Militec, Tuf-glide etc. use pretty light oil (one of the reasons why they smell much more than mineral oil) which evaporates over time leaving only a very, very thin layer that is bonded to the surface behind. That is the reason why I personally prefer a heavier oil, because I think the liquid film it provides offers better lubricity, but that liquid film always comes with the price of attracting gunk. For a knife pivot, I don't really think it makes much of a difference either way, and I have never really bothered to try around much. I have tried many different formulations for my ball bearings and in the end decided that I liked synthetic motor oil the best and simply used on my knives pretty much what seemed to work best for my bearings. What I also like about the heavier oils, is that they squeeze out dirt trapped between the mating surfaces, while the lighter oils potentially can pull dirt in during the evaporation process. Of course the same process will have the oil creep over the entire inside of the knife, attracting lint. But in the end I think you really have to use what works best for you. These are just considerations.

Thanks, guys, for the friendly words. I guess there has to be some advantage to studying surface science.
 
Yes but aren't petroleum based products bad fot the nylon washers used on some folders
 
ArchAngel said:
I started using mineral oil on all of my khukuris a few years ago. It is great! I actually now use a mix of mineral oil and clove oil. I think I mixed 32 oz of mineral with an 1.5 oz bottle of clove oil.


:confused:

Isn't clove oil caustic?
 
I know Clove oil has a slight surface anesthetic quality to it.

People use to use it on toothe aches.

Stinks to high heaven imho, and used like this on knives and swords, the bad guys may not know how badly thier injured untill its too late or they pass out.
:D :D

WR
 
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