Mini Stainless Bottle Kit Pimping (PLUS Stove!)

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Like everybody else, my primary reason for wanting a stainless water bottle over plastic or aluminum is to have the option to boil water in it when necessary. The Guyot Standard is nice because it fits many accessories designed for Nalgene bottles. I enjoyed putting together various add-ons to enhance it as shown in the Pimp My Guyot! thread. I enjoyed its versatility, but felt that it was just too heavy for backpacking. I also thought it was too bulky for a day hike, at least when attached to my fanny pack. I ultimately sold it to fund the purchase of some other gear.

The Original Guyot bottle with added bail, filter & nesting cup.
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I have recently thought that perhaps I could achieve a lot of the function for less weight if I used a smaller platform. Maybe my stainless bottle could be smaller and lighter, and I could carry additional water in another plastic bottle or bladder. . .

Bottle - I settled on the Klean Kanteen 18 oz. bottle. For size reference, it is about the size of a half liter water bottle. I went with the Classic over the Wide only because that was what was in stock locally and I was anxious to put this together. Here it is next to a standard 1 Liter Nalgene. The 18 oz KK Classic weighs 6 oz.

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Pre-Filter – Going with the Classic meant I could not use the H2Joe coffee filter I used with the Guyot. The Klean Kanteen Wide bottles are supposedly compatible. Does anybody know for sure?

Bail - I created a bail out of a stainless fishing leader just as I did in the original Pimping thread. This gives me the ability to suspend the bottle over a campfire or to just hang it up out of the way.

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Nesting Mug – The REI Titanium Mug (single wall) nests nicely. Unfortunately, the double wall mug doesn’t quite fit. I borrowed the sipper lid which came with my double wall mug which helps keep beverages warm and allows me to drink without searing my lips. The REI Mug and lid weigh 2.5 oz.

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Pouch - The whole affair fits nicely in a Tactical Tailor AK/M16 Mag Pouch, which attaches to my fanny pack by means of Malice Clips and is low profile enough to stay out of the way.

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Stove/Pot Stand - Finally, I decided to try a “Caldera Clone” as a stove to boil water in the Klean Kanteen when a camp fire may not be desirable. The Caldera Cone is a popular but bulky backpacking stove/pot stand made by Traildesigns.com. After seeing this YouTube video on a MYOG clone, I decided to try to make one out of aluminum flashing.

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It is essentially an inverted metal cone with two rods (made from a wire coat hanger) used to keep the bottle suspended over the flame. This version is designed to use with a Pepsi can stove or Esbit tabs. Depending on how this one works, I will try a wood burning version next.

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I made this one a two-piece unit to make it easier to pack. Each piece has a flange folded over on both ends, which mate with the flanges on the other piece. When disassembled it lays flat and measures 11” by 6.5”, which is easy enough to pack. It weighs a whopping 1.5 oz. (I have since made a three-piece stove which packs much smaller.)

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I'll probably start a new thread on making the stove. Hopefully I'll do a test firing tomorrow and will have a boil time to share. A stove like this could be made for theh Guyot or any other pot. The YouTube video is pretty helpful. I made a pattern and a couple of mock-ups using manila folders before I started snipping metal. Here is the stove thread.
 
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On the bail, I just used a premade stainless leader. I removed the snap off of one end, fed the end through itself, and then used a small crimp to hold the loop snug around the bottle's neck. It can either be used as a single line or can hook onto itself, creating a "bucket style" bail. The free end can also be attached to the cap to keep it with the bottle.
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Here are the prices of this little project:
$15.95 Klean Kanteen 18 oz Classic
$24.50 REI TiWare Mug .4 liter (Single Wall)
$0.32 Stainless Leader for Bail
$0.16 Crimps ($1.95 for 12)
$2.59 Aluminum Flashing ($12.95 for 10')
I also bought a bending tool from Harbor Freight for $9.99 and a pair of tin snips for $3.95.

Now, where can I find some titanium sheet metal? :D
 
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Now, where can I find some titanium sheet metal? :D

Here!

More excellent Gadgeteering there Pritch!
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Just a thought, These tea infusers, if separated into two pieces, one may be used in the neck of your bottle to act as a water pre-filter, like your coffee filter did. Alternatively, leave it intact for twice the filtration!

The convex should fit into the neck, with the frame seated on the rim of the bottle.

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More excellent Gadgeteering there Pritch!
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Just a thought, These tea infusers, if separated into two pieces, one may be used in the neck of your bottle to act as a water pre-filter, like your coffee filter did. Alternatively, leave it intact for twice the filtration!

The convex should fit into the neck, with the frame seated on the rim of the bottle.

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Thanks, my friend! I was just looking at those this weekend with vague wilderness thoughts swirling about. (That was before this project.) I'll take the bottle with me to the asian market and see if I can find one that fits.
 
How are you attaching the bail to the KK?

It almost looks like something around the neck below the lip. Could you post a closer picture?

Thanks and great ideas.
 
Very nice work pritch!
I am also thanksful for tyhe link to the titanium foil.
I am going to make one of these cone stoves from it.

I might suggest,from an old version I made,is to eliminate the vent holes
on the bottom,and instead cut notches out of the bottom edge.
This will allow the cone to sit on 3 "legs" like
a tripod and be more stable on uneven ground.

I goofed in the picture,cut the notches so there are 3 total on both halves...

Anyway,great ideas pritch
thanks!


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(i never said I could draw!)
 
How are you attaching the bail to the KK?

It almost looks like something around the neck below the lip. Could you post a closer picture?

Thanks and great ideas.

Hi Dan,

Here is a close up. There is a big enough lip to keep the bail in place.

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Thanks
 
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Very nice work pritch!
I am also thanksful for tyhe link to the titanium foil.
I am going to make one of these cone stoves from it.

I might suggest,from an old version I made,is to eliminate the vent holes
on the bottom,and instead cut notches out of the bottom edge.
This will allow the cone to sit on 3 "legs" like
a tripod and be more stable on uneven ground.

I goofed in the picture,cut the notches so there are 3 total on both halves...

Anyway,great ideas pritch
thanks!


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(i never said I could draw!)


Thanks for the input. I tried my hand at a wood burner today but have been unable to get outside to try it out. I'll be posting a new thread on making the stove.
 
There are some neat ideas thanks for posting them.

Bryan


Thanks, Bryan.

I have the Stove thread up over here. There were some problems with many people seeing the pictures, but Joe swept in and hosted the photos until I can get my act together.

By the way, are people having problems seeing the photos in this thread?
 
I hopefully fixed the pics for those of you that were having a hard time seeing them.

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I found a metal piece that was sized perfectly to act as a lid during boiling. It came with a little "Tea Ball" and I think it was supposed to be some kind of coaster. I added a center loop to attach a leash and then attached the leash to the bail. it sits perfectly on top of the bottle when heating water to speed up boil times and keep crap out of the water.
 
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I hopefully fixed the pics for those of you that were having a hard time seeing them.

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I found a metal piece that was sized perfectly to act as a lid during boiling. It came with a little "Tea Ball" and I think it was supposed to be some kind of coaster. I added a center loop to attach a leash and then attached the leash to the bail. it sits perfectly on top of the bottle when heating water to speed up boil times and keep crap out of the water.

Still red X'S
 
I have been wanting to try a traditional rigid wire "bucket" bail on my bottles rather than just the "string" type I've been using. I decided that the lip at the top of the Klean Kanteen bottles is large enough to support one.

What I did was drill small holes through the outer layer of the metal lip at the brim. to accomodate the bail. This was very simple, but not easy! Stainless is very hard to drill, and trying to drill the holes freehand was tough. I guess if I had a drill press it would be easier.

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I made the bail out of metal coat hanger wire. I have some slightly thicker steel wire but I'll have to solve the whole drilling in stainless thing first.

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The advantage of this kind of bail is that it folds out of the way and doesn't interfere with the cap or take up any room.

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Finally, I came across a set of three 27 oz stainless bottles today at Costco for $15! (Less than I paid for an 18 oz KK a couple of weeks ago!) One was plain stainless and the other two were colored. All three came with black neoprene sleeves. The bottles are marked "Smart Source" but are made by Lifeline.

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The sleeve adds a way to insulate the bottle and it is also nice to slip the bottle back inside of it after using it over a fire to keep soot and whatnot off of the rest of my gear.

The 27 oz. bottles are significantly taller. These won't work in the green pouch above but will be fine in my pack's bottle pockets.

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The color is only on the outside of the bottles so they could still be used as emergency boiling vessels.
 
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