Moen Hardcore Knife Jig?

[Rhinoknives1]

I use a TAG 101 and have the chiller set up on it But it would have required drilling and tapping new mounting holes in the c plate or buying a new one from Nathan .. I opted for the latter. I have a sweet settup now, with 3 chillers, 1 cfor each platen (36" radius, end radius, and regular flat)

Thanks! I’ve been interested in a Radius platen for a while now!————-So many toys ,,, ,,, ,,,

 

[gudspelr]

Not sure if you've seen this one or if it helps ya out at all, but I remembered seeing this video which shows Todd Begg grinding a blade from start to a mirror finish using that jig. It shows him just dunking the whole jig in water then drying it off with a quick blast of air from a compressor.

~Paul
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I had watched that video but went back and looked after your post. I missed him dunking it in water-looks like it’s up on the bench to the side of the grinder. He definitely doesn’t have to cool it off much/often.

Jeremy

 

[Alpha Knife Supply]

Todd Begg told me about the platen a few weeks ago. I watched the videos and bought the platen.

The platen assembly is extremely well made. The quality of the machining and finish is excellent. The grinding belt runs on a short belt running over a carbide platen. It is a rotary platen with a carbide plate and air cooling. You do not feel the belt splice when it goes over the platen i.e., there is no belt "bump" when grinding. There is a fan to air cool the backside of the platen.

Is the Moen platen worth the price? Todd Begg said he can make more knives because of the time saved. He spends less time changing belts by skipping grits and less time hand finishing. The additional knives more than pay for the platen.

It was an easy decision for me to buy the platen. When we test steel, the faster we can grind blades, the faster the employees get back to doing jobs that generate revenue. The platen will easily pay for itself in a year. Regarding the grinding fixture, it works well. Jon rough ground three fighter style blades in less than 15 minutes. The plunges matched and the swedges were even.

I don't know if the grinding jig will be used, but the platen will be.

Chuck

 

[Rhinoknives1]

Todd Begg told me about the platen a few weeks ago. I watched the videos and bought the platen.

The platen assembly is extremely well made. The quality of the machining and finish is excellent. The grinding belt runs on a short belt running over a carbide platen. It is a rotary platen with a carbide plate and air cooling. You do not feel the belt splice when it goes over the platen i.e., there is no belt "bump" when grinding. There is a fan to air cool the backside of the platen.

Is the Moen platen worth the price? Todd Begg said he can make more knives because of the time saved. He spends less time changing belts by skipping grits and less time hand finishing. The additional knives more than pay for the platen.

It was an easy decision for me to buy the platen. When we test steel, the faster we can grind blades, the faster the employees get back to doing jobs that generate revenue. The platen will easily pay for itself in a year. Regarding the grinding fixture, it works well. Jon rough ground three fighter style blades in less than 15 minutes. The plunges matched and the swedges were even.

I don't know if the grinding jig will be used, but the platen will be.

Chuck

is the Rubber belt that runs over the Platen a Motor Timing belt? There are small ridges or steps on the inside so it would track properly... thanks

 

[Alpha Knife Supply]

The platen belt looks like a snowmobile drive belt. It is ribbed on the backside.

Chuck

 

[Rhinoknives1]

The platen belt looks like a snowmobile drive belt. It is ribbed on the backside.

Chuck

Thanks, Not much snow here by the ocean in S Cal.. the Hardcore Convex Grinding platen has a Similar type belt! Thanks

 

[Drew Riley]

is the Rubber belt that runs over the Platen a Motor Timing belt? There are small ridges or steps on the inside so it would track properly... thanks

They look like they're the same belts and wheels that are used on the KMG rotary platen, (micro v-belts) thought the length and spacing are different. IIRC, the KMG is a 26", 20 rib belt, but you can get them in different lengths and widths.

 

[HSC ///]

Yeah, they’re definitely spendy. I will say that the feature for flipping the blade side to side sure seems nice (vs attaching it then having to take it off and turn it-seems like it could allow for uneven grinds if not careful). And as for the angle, yes it is changed by adjusting the angle of the work rest. If anyone does get their hands on one, I’d be really interested in your thoughts.

Jeremy

I handled the jig yesterday at Tru Grit and Jeff Mutz showed me how it works.
In short I would say that if you have a blade pattern or very similar patterns to grind, and on a regular basis or you can batch process half a dozen, then you can make a case for this tool.

In other words there is some setup required to get your grinder table rest and the jig points setup properly for your grind. But once you have that, if you can grind out more blades in the same setup, then you can probably save time.

If you are doing many different blade patterns of various sizes, each one requires it's own setup.

Lastly like any other tool jig, you still have to handle your plunges, and sweeping in the tip if you want to taper to a tip.

 

[gudspelr]

Harbeer-
Thanks for taking the time to check it out and write out your thoughts. I really appreciate it.

Jeremy