Mora knife project

Excellent job overall mrostov. :thumbup: Everything turned out nice.

I am curious though , assuming the handle is hickory, and knowing the thinness of Mora's , what does it feel like in the hand with a heavy handle and light blade ?

Also , isn't the Mora a bit thin to use with a flint/striker ? I would think that would wear down any sharpness on the blade rather fast.

Opinions ?
 
Also , isn't the Mora a bit thin to use with a flint/striker ? I would think that would wear down any sharpness on the blade rather fast.

Opinions ?
Most folks prefer to use the spine of their blade to strike the firesteel.

todd
 
I always file the spines of my moras flat so that I have a good scraper and flint striker,I never use any of my knives edges to strike a ferro rod.
 
Beautiful work!! very nice job. :thumbup: :thumbup:

Having a Mora blade with that larger comfy handle is to drool for.
 
Very impressive! The whole thing. Handle, sheath, set-up. All very impressive.

Regards,


Michael
 
Wow, great job.

You've inspired me to try to do the same. I'm going to order a bare blade from ragweed and use some wood I have around.
 
I have a warning for you gents buying good blades and making them better... it's addictive!!
 
Excellent job overall mrostov. :thumbup: Everything turned out nice.

I am curious though , assuming the handle is hickory, and knowing the thinness of Mora's , what does it feel like in the hand with a heavy handle and light blade ?

Also , isn't the Mora a bit thin to use with a flint/striker ? I would think that would wear down any sharpness on the blade rather fast.

Opinions ?

I have used my mora's for everything including: fire striking with a flint, fire steel, and mag block. I always use the spine. I square it off with a file, and it works great.

To balance that I find the thinner blade to be more useful "all around" that a thicker blade.

Well,I decided to do a Mora project.



BTW..... great re-handle mrostov. Looks nice, and I like the longer handle. :thumbup:
 
Apologies for being late in responding to a few questions in this thread.

To those that wanted me to maybe make them a knife, sorry, but I just don't have the extra time - as evidenced by how long it took for me to reply to this thread.

To answer a few questions:

The 4.25" (108mm) laminated carbon Mora blade I got from Ben's Backwoods. It was $11 plus shipping.
http://stores.ebay.com/BENS-BACKWOODS

The knife is rather light, even with the slightly larger handle. The hickory handle isn't that heavy and the laminated Mora blades tend to be a tad thicker and heavier than regular, non-laminated Mora blades. See that bump right behind the front finger notch on the handle? It's just about right at mid-length on the knife (4.25" blade, 5.5" handle). That is the balance point.

I drilled out the hole for the knife tang using a longer then normal drill bit (Home Depot). For drilling the initial hole, I marked the lines with a Sharpie marker on all 4 sides so I could visually align it, and then I drilled it freehand with a cordless drill. I opened up the hole at the mouth using a Dremel tool to fit the wider part of the tang. Then I used a combo of drill bit, a chisel I ground out of a long, really skinny screwdriver, and a tool I made out of a small saw blade that I ground the back on to make it really skinny. For the bolster, aluminum works great and it's easier to find than brass.

The blade is secured to the handle with a generous amount of JB Weld steel epoxy down the entire length of the tang. The tang is as long as the blade and goes down all but the last 1-1/4" of the handle. The only epoxy I'll use on a project like this is JB Weld. The excess cleans up easy with a wet cloth or damp paper towel. It has a very long cure time (it says 15 hours or so on the instructions but I always give it 24 hours), but when it does cure, that handle and the blade tang are effectively one piece. When initially mixed, it is very loose and runny so it fills all of the nooks and crannies of the tang cavity extremely well. I filled the entire tang cavity with JB Weld, used a small, long, skinny screwdriver to work it in and get all of the bubbles out as I topped it off with JB Weld. I then put the tang of the blade into the handle and slowly shoved it down, wiping off the excess JB Weld that came out. I then braced the knife up vertically, tip of the blade pointing up, with a board on the tip and some weight on the board and then let it harden for 24 hours. The bond of the JB Weld in an application like this is so strong, the blade steel or the wood of the handle will give before the epoxy will. To get that handle back off, you would need to grind it off, millimeter by millimeter (I've had to do that before).

I've done a couple of projects like this and the only custom tool I've used is a reciprocating saw blade who's top I ground down the spine on to make it really skinny and I made a rudimentary handle for. I use this for scraping out the insides of the cavity where the blade tang goes. It was made by Black & Decker and the teeth are a lot like those on a Leatherman Wave or Swiss Army Knife. I also have a very small head screwdriver that's very long and skinny that I sharpened into a chisel. You probably will want to buy a longer than normal drill bit which should save you quite a bit of initial work. When hollowing out the cavity just have patience. On the bolster, I drilled the hole for the knife tang out small and used jeweler's files to size it out. I used a small reciprocating power sander, the type that vibrates back and forth with a small square of sandpaper, to help shape the handle and handguard. I also used a Dremel tool quite a bit. I also used a wood rasp in the form of a Nicholson '4 in Hand', and I also used a half-round 'Bastard' file.

For the lanyard hole I used 1/4" brass tubing I bought at ACE Hardware for a couple of bucks a foot. For the hole I used a 1/4" drill bit and it was a tight fit. I smeared JB Weld into the hole with a Q-Tip before I lightly tapped it in. Do this after the knife blade is in but before you sand the handle down. So, when you do sand the handle down, it all comes out smoothly contoured.

The sheath was made with thick 1.5" leather strap originally intended for repairing horse tack. The sewing was done by hand with a sewing awl. I marked the holes out freehand with a small, Phillips screwdriver while eyeballing the spacing. The holes I drilled with a cordless drill, though I usually use a 110V Dremel. Often the leather is too thick to use my cordless Dremel. This is a pattern of sheath I developed that I've made variations of for several of my knives. The most difficult and tedious part of making this style of sheath is the hone pocket on the front.

Here is a pic showing the knife alongside a Kabar Mule lockblade folder for a size comparion. The Mule has a 3-3/4" blade. Oddly enough, the two marks on the handle from the snaps on the sheath's retaining strap show up in the photo, but are not really noticeable with the naked eye.

Rostov_Mora_9.jpg
 
very nice... I've done a few of those with the Frost's laminated blades, using similar methods. These make elegant users.
 
Very nice. Why did you make the length of the handle the same as the blade. Do you have big hands?
 
Very nice. Why did you make the length of the handle the same as the blade. Do you have big hands?

The handle is actually about 1.25" longer than the blade. The tang of the blade is the same length as the 4.25" blade while the handle is 5.5" long.

It gives a lot of power and leverage for a wide variety of cutting tasks. You'll find that many tasks are easier and don't tire your hand nearly as much with a longer handle. It's easier to keep a secure grip when wet or slippery. Also when dealing with some plants and such that are spiny, you want a bit of extra length. A handle like that is also better for fighting if need be.

My hands are not that much larger than most, but I have come to the conclusion over time that most people who make knives seriously don't look at the handle well enough as a working part of the tool. On many, the handle is just big enough to grip the knife, but more often than not the knife would be far better as a working tool with a longer handle.

Go buy a Ka-Bar Mule, my current favorite lockblade folder, and you'll see what I mean. The Mule has what is probably the best designed handle of any production folder on the market.

Here is my custom Mora with my Ka-Bar Mule.
Rostov_Mora_9.jpg
 
Nice craftman, a perfect user! I really like the sheath combining firestarter is an idea. Handle is long and provides the right amount of leverage! 11 bucks for the blade a working man price nice!!!!!
 
Mrostov, Really nice job I'm in the process of making a new sheath for my mora loosely based on ideas I got from this post...Thanks, I wanted to ask if you thought the laminated mora blades are to fragile for gen outddor use, as I've read in several places that they are very fragile...just wanted to ask about you're personal experiences Thanks
 
Mrostov, Really nice job I'm in the process of making a new sheath for my mora loosely based on ideas I got from this post...Thanks, I wanted to ask if you thought the laminated mora blades are to fragile for gen outddor use, as I've read in several places that they are very fragile...just wanted to ask about you're personal experiences Thanks

I don't think they are fragile. The #1 and #2 blades (used a #2 for this project) just get just hair flinging, razor sharp, and they stay that way after a lot of cutting and that is why I like them. I sharpen mine on a diamond hone, then a ceramic hone, then a leather strop. It cuts like a fresh, obsidian blade. The knife I made in this project has become my favorite fixed blade sheath knife.

But my style may be different than others. Practicing really primitive and also coming from a background were many of the older 440C Buck knives were in use, I tend to treat blades like this as cutting instruments first and foremost and I naturally don't do things like pound them through a log with a rock, like others I've known have done with their knives. I tend to treat a short, razor sharp knife like this as if it were made out of obsidian. Any knife that cuts as well as this one, and keeps it's edge as long as this one, and sharpens up as readily, needs to be taken care of and not abused.

I consider the blade to be strong and not that fragile, and this was the whole reason behind the laminated construction. Fallkniven uses a similar construction scheme with a VG-10 stainless center and 420J2 outer layers. I consider it to be more resilient to breaking than an older Buck knife.

My impression is that such that the sharpness issue is also the reason that Mors Kochanski raves about his Mora, which I also think is the carbon laminated blade, and he has publicly said that he's stood on his after pounding it into a tree.

Also, you have to remember that most people who talk about their Mora, have the little plastic handled ones. Those are something of a different animal. The blades are quite a bit thinner and the tangs are shorter. Those are essentially disposable knives for the kitchen, fishing boats, fish canneries, etc. People just like them because they are sharp and cheap. If you are paying $10 for one here, retail, after a couple of middlemen have had them and they've been shipped halfway around the world, what do you think a fish cannery in Scandinavia pays for them when they buy them locally, by the case, direct from the factory?

The blade blank that I used for this knife, and the one that is in the puukko style, wooden handled Mora #2 (what it looks like Kochanski uses) is probably the thickest blade that Frosts makes in the Mora line. The wooden handled Mora #1 and #2 are real knives, not disposable knives for the kitchen or fishing boats.
 
Thanks I'm really digging mine...headin out for a few days in a week and a half with prety much a mora #1 an axe and a sleeping bag...just wanted to make sure it'd hold up.
 
Thanks I'm really digging mine...headin out for a few days in a week and a half with prety much a mora #1 an axe and a sleeping bag...just wanted to make sure it'd hold up.

Cool, do you do the Nessmuk trio thing and bring a multi-tool?

Nowadays when I wander into the bush and traveling light I'll bring my custom Mora, Leatherman Charge Ti, and a Norland hatchet that has a 3" bit and a Hudson Bay style head. With a new handle, that Mora has rapidly become my favorite knife.
 
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