Morbid handle material

I personally would not use human bones for handles, but, I don't think it's any more wierd than using a walrus penis bone (oosik) for a handle.
 
Wow! Opinions really differ here. From "Yeah, that would kick ass!" all the way to "You're sick freaks for even thinking about it." I remain somewhere in the middle: Still think it would be cool but I'd be waaay weirded out making one.

Bruce, I had the same thought. Unfortunately, they are out of coyote leg bones right now.
 
With all due courtesy, perhaps the feeling of being "way weirded out" is your conscience speaking to you.
 
I don't see that conscience is an issue. There's nothing legally or morally wrong with it. These people have obviously made clear that they wanted their bodies to be put to some use when they died. They probably meant to be used as classroom aids or some such but I don't see why they would be unhappy to know that their bones were used in a knife. My logical side says this. The part of me that enjoys film noir and reveling in dark moods says "Cool! Do it!" My spiritual side however is minded of unholy ritualistic uses of such things and wants no part of it. Let's say I'm "uncomfortable with using a handle material to which so much bad 'juju' has been attached by people who would use such a thing for sinister acts" and leave conscience out of it.
 
I would be down for attempting a handle with it....but

A. I have had a streak of bad Karma lately, and dont need anything to "disturb the balance of the force", if you will.

B. I am a wet-behind-the-ears youn'un who dosent have the $$ or the know how to yet make a proper handel from others bones.
 
Sorry Stu, and nothing personal, but conscience is a metaphor for teachings that cause us to behave in a civilized manner. If you choose to leave this out of selected decisions, well, that's up to you; I don't however. The use of human bones for decorative purposes (purposes other than medical or teachings of same) is at worst wrong, and at best, in very poor taste. Part of you sees this. I don't think you meant any thing bad by posting this topic, nor are you bad because of it.
Best wishes for the coming year, and see you on the balisong forum.
Fin.

Phillip Jones, I've always thought oosik was unusual too, although not having parity with the above.
 
I dont think there is anything morally or ethically wrong with using human bones. I dont think conscience has anything to do with it.

Once we are dead, or bodies ar enothing more than decaying matter, no soul, no spirit left in them. They are just bits of pieces of organic, carbon based, matter. Nothing more.

As I said before, a bone, is a bone, is a bone, is a bone, is a bone, is a bone.

I would use finger bones for jewelry, it would go great with my gothic attire, even better to have one real, one cast of silver, one real, one silver, on a necklace, in that order, would look good, I think. And still be just a bone.

Jeez people, lighten up... after your dead (hell in most ways before you are dead) you aint "all that and a bag of chips" more than other animals... cripes. :rollseyes:
 
satin,

The soul and the spirit may be gone but there should at least be some respect given them. If not, why do we bury the dead?
 
Would the ahses left from a cremated body be carbon and could it be added to a damascus billet?
 
I want my ashes used in a Damascus billet and then made into a blade to remeber me by.I hope it will work.
Bruce
 
Maybe someone could burn up an animal carcas till it's just ashes and try using it in damascus.
 
Personally, I'd make one in a heartbeat. Full tang double-twist Damascus, Nickel-Silver hilt and pommel, gray dyed femur, red Inlace spacer, Mosaic pins, Black alligator leather sheath. That’s the easy part. The thing I would be uncomfortable with is owning it.
 
MY BRETHREN:
What is our most beloved tool here?? Basically knives
are used for 2 things. 1)Makin our lives easier 2)keeping us
alive
I mean think about it. First;They are our most basic tools. Our edges.
they are literally our edge over every other living and in-animate
object on this planet. Without the edge, metalsmithing and the like;
our technological lives wouldve never existed. We wouldnt even be looking at these stupid boxes interacting with each other right now
Like our bones they have been the structural skeleton around which all this garb holds up. Dogs chew on bones everyday. And u can bet your Randall #1;theres one chewing on a Human Bone right now. Our EDGE is the only thing seperating us from; PROTECTING us from all the rest. Like Spyderco says "all Gods critters got blades".
Bone "anything" part of a blade speaks volumes of our advancement. Of using what we have been given. Guns you say?? not without the edge that was used 2 create it first.
Second; It is therefore instinct to do anything we have 2 do 2 stay alive. If that means using a blade 2 defend the innocent; a family member, the little old lady across the street;it makes no difference. Ive often heard it said "Guns are so impersonal,but when
u take a sword to an enemy that is the most brutal primitive act one can imagine unless u EAT him. Once again Bone would remind us of that resolve. "Watch your own bak yard,but when trouble comes after you;
bite its head off;before it does the same to you!!" Steven Segal.
Thats why I think its not only acceptable but can be in alot of cases really profound
 
Well, I think it is not that big a deal if it is used wisely. The most innocent things in life can be the most evil if used for evil purposes. If a knife handle was made out of human bone with good intentions I would see it as nothing other than using every possible resource and not wasting anything.
My best friend would have nothing at all to do with the internet. He is very Pentecostal and thought the internet was pure evil. I showed him that the internet can be used for good things and he is now online.
Did anyone see the Ripley's (I think that is what I saw it on) where the Australian Bikers dad had cancer and was dying so he started getting tattoos. His request was that when he died that he be skinned and tanned. His son did and has the tattoos hanging on the walls of his bar as a tribute to his father.
Cannibals eat others to pass the best traits on from the person being ate.
Aborted baby fetuses are a delicacy in China.
IMO, there are alot freakier things going on out there than using human bones that are obtained by legal means for knife handles.
Would I use human bones? No, there are alot nicer handle materials out there that is alot cheaper. If a customer (Yea, like I have any of those yet. :D) sent me some human bone that they wanted made into a knife handle, I would do it, <b>IF</b> I knew in my heart and mind that the bone was obtained in a proper manner, like a bone from a loved one before they were cremated or purchased legally with proof.
JMHO, don't everyone hate me. :)
 
Originally posted by Phillip Jones
satin,

The soul and the spirit may be gone but there should at least be some respect given them. If not, why do we bury the dead?
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We bury the dead to give closure to the living. That's why I feel for the relatives of those who "disappear." There's nothing to bury, so it's tougher to feel the closure.

Just for the record, I wouldn't want a knife with a human bone handle. I just doesn't feel right. Now, if it were legal, a narwahl horn would be cool...
 
It isn't about sanctimonious (or sacred) human life, spirit, or soul.

It 'is' about a total and complete lack of respect and disregard for who we are and where we came from.

If you are of the mind to believe in the evolutionary gospel, as I am, you'll believe that humans have been here longer than 6,000 years.

If indeed we have been here longer than 6,000 years, say something like 600,000 years in our present form, we've had numerous opportunities over that period of time to debase ourselves, and yet we've restrained ourselves...

...mind you, I'm not ethically opposed to cannibalism of the dead to sustain the living, any more than I'm morally opposed to sterilization after birth of a single child to prevent human over population, or genetic engineering to reduce chronic medical defects...

...and whereas hyena's, amongst others, eat their dead; for us to debase ourselves in such fashion is indeed leading down a slippery slope...

I personally feel that to use our fellow man as a commodity is morally corrupt.

It's not 'neat', it's not 'stimulating', and it's certainly not 'cool'

To what degree am I adament about my position? I would shoot someone that felt otherwise, cook, and then eat them...is that serious enough?

Utilization of human byproducts is, in my opinion, completely and totally unacceptable! If you disagree, and I catch you, rest assured...I will eat you!

The moral high road is what keeps us 'thinking animals' at the top of the heap, albeit temporarily, instead of viewing ourselves as transient...

Think about it carefully...we're watching, you may be next...
 
Well spoken, Satin!

And Melvin-Purvis, if you are really serious in what you say, quote:

"Utilization of human byproducts is, in my opinion, completely and totally unacceptable!"

then i wish that you will come into the situation where a donor organ would be the only way to stay alive.

Achim
 
A casting, that LOOKED like a real bone, but wasn't real, would look pretty neat. But if somebody ever dug up my grandparents and used their remains as decoration, as some local "Goth Artists" have done to other families, I shudder to think of the horror that I would inflict upon them.
Now using a knifemakers ashes, per their request, for the making of steel for a blade is just an awesome Idea. I think it would really give the blade a soul then.
As a male, Oosic is a little unsettling to me too. :eek:
But as far as using bones from a medical supply house for decorations, almost every biology classroom does this during Halloween. How would this be different than somebody using the femur of off one that was bought at a surplus sale for knife scales? I personally wouldn't, but I'm not going to threaten to kill and eat somebody that would. Especially with Kreutsfeld Jacob Syndrome having made it to the US. Most animals kill to survive. Man kills because we want to. How friggin moral is that? Al Qaida claims to be more "moral" than us infidels. So they kill us. We claim to be more moral than them, so we kill them. (Course we're right and their wrong):D
Morality is derived from power. Power is derived from will. Will is derived from Will's mommy and daddy. ;)
 
So you're going to kill and eat somebody who disrespects the physical body of another? Oooooooookay.
 
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