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Single Six in stainless with .22/.22 mag cylinders!!!! :thumbup:

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Greetings gentlemen.

Let me put in my opinion for my S&W 686. A great gun. Balanced and dependable. Shoots .38's, .38+P (my choice for home defense) and the powerful .357. Stainless.

It's a great all around pistol which will shoot a variety of easy to find ammo for everything from plinking to hunting to SD. I've never had a failure from this pistol for as long as I've owned it.

God bless and Merry Christmas.
 
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I have had plenty of firearms in Calibers ranging from .22 to .454 and I can without hesitation recommend any caliber from the HK USP line. I may be the "why bother with Busse when any sharp piece metal will cut guy" but in my pistol I can't and won't accept comprimise. The HK is utterly durable, ridiculously accurate (I once shot a packrat out of a tree at 20 yards with a headshot. Now, I have a DAO with night sights in 9mm its light, easy to carry and I put the shot where I need. There is no other weapon to serve a utility role that I could possibly recommend over it. I have carried this pistol as a duty weapon as a personal security escort, on CCW when serving warrants and now it stays within arms reach 24/7.

I also have a .454 Casull to go Boar hunting or for carry in Bear country which is now on the trade block for either a .45 ACP or a 10mm. Too much recoil for me. Great, well built, accurate revolver though.

If I can suggest a great "Do it all" weapon for most any circumstance, I would definitely go with a Model 94 Winchester lever action rifle in .44 Remington Magnum. High capacity of cartridges plus effective range out to 200 yards, it makes a great mountain gun for anytime, anywhere.
 
I had one and loved it. The only reason, I don't have it any more is that my father in law loved it too. I gave it to him as a gift. I think you would be very happy with a blackhawk.

Ed
 
Foilist said:
Thanks for the info and comments. Of course, I understand that a double action revolver or semi auto is better for a dedicated defense handgun, but this is mainly meant to be for fun plinking with hunting or protection as secondary concerns. For a dedicated defense gun, I'm thinking of a short shotgun.
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For a purely recreational arm, then a Ruger Single Six makes more sense, but I understand wanting to hurl larger pieces of lead downrange.

A .357 Blackhawk is a good choice for that and with the convertible model, you can fire 3 different cartridges.

Consider the barrel length, adjustable sights (or fixed) and blue or stainless and buy one !

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coaldigger said:
Well here I go, G L O C K :D
If I'm goin to depend on a handgun to defend my family, home, & myself, I want it to go *BANG* everytime I squeeze the trigger w/ a loaded chamber ! I have a CCDW permit here in Kentucky & I carry a Glock G19, this is a proven dependable handgun :thumbup: Also w/ the 9mm you get 15rd clips, these guns are accurate & field strip very easy & fast ! Great customer service & easy to find extras for it ! The single six is a good gun but slow to reload for the average person & heavy to pack all day . Go to the handgun forum & check out the torture test on the glock, you will be amazed & what these guns can go through & keep firing !;)
Sorry for the long post :o
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Look at the track record of Rugers competing is SASS and mounted shooting events, I have never heard of one not going bang. I would also want a tad bigger bullet if out in the woods.


Glocks are a good gun, I even bought my wife one, but I would only take it to the woods if the only thing I hade to worry about was two legged varmints.
 
I had a couple of Blackhawks once, but didn't keep them. They didn't fit my hand well, and never shot well for me. Guess I'm not a single action guy....

I do have several double action Rugers these days. The SP101, GP100, and SuperRedhawk, and love them all!!!
 
Paddling_man said:
Here is the article I was thinking of...

http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles2/ayoob101.html
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Let’s think about it. You are the typical horseman, whose mount is not accustomed to gunfire. Suddenly, that fox that has been at the henhouse comes into sight, or you see a feral dog chasing your livestock. The handgun comes out of your holster. You take a sight picture, you press the trigger, and… Depending on the caliber, the handgun’s report explodes not terribly far from your horse’s ear, at something between 100 and 140 literally deafening decibels.

Is the horse likely to shy? Oh, yes.



When you are loading, to guarantee that an empty chamber comes up under the hammer when you’re done, with most single actions you want to follow the protocol developed in the American West in the last quarter of the 19th Century, the original heyday of this gun. It goes like this:


I looked the article over, being that I shot off horseback I tend to disagree with his statements. It’s pretty simple, if you don’t have you horse accustomed to gunfire don’t shot of one period. Failing that, no gun can shot if your finger is off the trigger. I don’t see the different types of pistols being unsafe to use. It all come down to training, if you don’t practice anything you do is dangerous.


Second if you have a single action with the transfer bar safety why would you not load 6 rounds. I even had a guy try and tell me to not only leave the chamber under the hammer empty but also the next one because of a storey where a branch had caught the hammer somehow managed to rotate the cylinder and then drop on the next round and then fire. I said Ill pass.
 
Like others have mentioned, I prefer a double action revolver for defense. E.g., a GP-100 or one of Ruger's older models like the Security Six or Service Six. I keep a 4" barreled stainless steel Service Six in the lock box next to my bed.

However, if you know how to shoot it a single action is a viable defensive arm. The New Model Blackhawks in .357 are big and heavy, too much so for my tastes. However, if you can find one of the 50th Anniversary Blackhawks in .357, grab it. They use a smaller frame size and handle a lot better. Rumor has it that Ruger will be introducing a Blackhawk on that frame size in .44 Special. That'll be the cat's pajamas.
 
David E said:
For a purely recreational arm, then a Ruger Single Six makes more sense, but I understand wanting to hurl larger pieces of lead downrange.

A .357 Blackhawk is a good choice for that and with the convertible model, you can fire 3 different cartridges.

Consider the barrel length, adjustable sights (or fixed) and blue or stainless and buy one !

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My father has a Single Six that I love to shoot when I visit him. The reason I am thinking Blackhawk instead is that (a) I already have a .22 pistol, and that (b) that Single Six will be mine at some point (not to be morbid or anything).

I want adjustable sights but I can't decide on barrel length (4.5" or 6.5"). I have no preference between blue and stainless. I will likely buy used, so that will determine these options.
 
I prefer double action revolvers in general and the 4" Ruger GP100 is hard to beat. My preferred 357 is a 6" Colt Trooper Mark III. It feels lighter than my 3" GP100. Love that gun. But, I also understand you would prefer a Ruger single action. Go for it in 357. You won't go wrong. I have a Ruger SA in 41 mag which I like a lot. The 357 mag is probably the most versatile handgun cartridge there is; a balance of power and cost.

If you are just lookin at the 357 for woods defensive purposes, I believe you would be just as well served by a good 22 revolver.
 
Get a Ruger Single Six for the range and for small game hunting.
http://www.ruger.com/Firearms/FAFamily?type=Revolver&subtype=Single Action&famlst=14
If your on a budget, consider an adjustable sight model Heritage Rough Rider.


This should be in addition to the .357 you want for home defense and target shooting. You should shoot .38s at the range, and load .357s for saving your bacon.

As an FYI, Cabela's in East Hartford has a used Smith and Wesson model 10 .38 Special police revolver for $199. It's got fixed sights, and a bit of holster wear, but it may be a good house gun, being double action and all.
 
Good topic!

I favor the the 357mag/38sp in a revolver for a wilderness firearm as long as it's light enough to carry to not be a burden. I like the 3" sp101 and 3" model 60 for this. Both are ideal woods guns imo. Light enough to carry and heavy enough to shoot for fun.

A revovler is good because it's concealable but given the choice in a long term survival situation, I'd prefer a rifle in 22lr such as the 10/22. I can hit my targets much better with a rifle and 22 lr is cheap and light to carry.

It's probalby good to have both a real survival situation.

C
 
I understand the practicality of a double action, but I just cannot shake the desire for a single action. What I need to do is handle a few with an open mind, and maybe one will grow on me.
 
coaldigger said:
Well here I go, G L O C K :D
If I'm goin to depend on a handgun to defend my family, home, & myself, I want it to go *BANG* everytime I squeeze the trigger w/ a loaded chamber ! I have a CCDW permit here in Kentucky & I carry a Glock G19, this is a proven dependable handgun :thumbup: Also w/ the 9mm you get 15rd clips, these guns are accurate & field strip very easy & fast ! Great customer service & easy to find extras for it ! The single six is a good gun but slow to reload for the average person & heavy to pack all day . Go to the handgun forum & check out the torture test on the glock, you will be amazed & what these guns can go through & keep firing !;)
Sorry for the long post :o
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+1 for a Glock 19. I would suggest getting mags instead of "clips", though. :p
 
as much of a fan as i am of handguns, i have to say that for home defense and possible use for hunting, not much beats a pump 12 ga. shotgun. loaded with birdshot, it will take on most anything in a house setting (unless you have LONG rooms) because the shot doesnt have time to expand that much, at closer ranges it can be just as heavy hitting as a slug, but if you miss, the risk of going through a wall and killing someone outside (or the neighbor in his home from severe over-penetration) is limited. a few rounds of 00 buck can take on many other threats. and slugs can be used with a little pratice to take down game. becides, with lack of deer or large animals for food, who here is good enough to shoot a bird on the wing or a running rabbit with a pistol and you cant afford to miss? haha becides, and hearing that slide rack in the middle of the night and comming face to face with that large muzzle would scare me SH*TLESS :D
 
In anything approaching a survival situation, I would be wary of a firearm that could be come separated from its ammunition holder. No detachable magazine arms for me.

I vote revolver for the handgun and lever for the long one. Bonus points if chambered for the same round.

Rick
 
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