More than just a knife?

jmclfrsh

jmclfrsh

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Whenever I'm going out, whether it's taking my girl out in town (Columbus) or just walking the dogs, and I know a situation could potentially come up where I need to use a knife to defend any or all of us, I never bring anything other than an Emerson. It might be my Super Commander, my CQC8 or my new CQC15.

Maybe Emerson's marketing is getting to me. "Whenever you carry your Emerson, Ernest Emerson's got you back."

All I know is, I never reach for one of my Sebenzas, or ZTs, or Spydercos - although my Civilian is downright scary even to a knife guy- it's ALWAYS an Emerson or I feel under prepared. "I could have brought one of THEM with me." I literally feel kinda naked and not complete without one.

Does anyone else who depends on a knife if "that" situation arose - we don't need to get into the guns vs. knives debate in this thread, keep it to knives, they are always handy and easy to carry - feel the same way? That nothing else but an Emerson will do?

I think it's the whole package; the waved immediate opening, the loud and satisfying "click" as the blade locks into place, the whole "surprise factor" that does it for me. Maybe it adds a psychological edge.

Thoughts?
 
Ut-oh, just saw a "One knife - when it counts" thread in General. This should have gone in there...

Disregard, I'll post in that one. Forgiveness please.

(BTW, still think I like the psychological edge carrying an Emerson gives me) !
 
jmclfrsh said:
Whenever I'm going out, whether it's taking my girl out in town (Columbus) or just walking the dogs, and I know a situation could potentially come up where I need to use a knife to defend any or all of us, I never bring anything other than an Emerson. It might be my Super Commander, my CQC8 or my new CQC15.

Maybe Emerson's marketing is getting to me. "Whenever you carry your Emerson, Ernest Emerson's got you back."

All I know is, I never reach for one of my Sebenzas, or ZTs, or Spydercos - although my Civilian is downright scary even to a knife guy- it's ALWAYS an Emerson or I feel under prepared. "I could have brought one of THEM with me." I literally feel kinda naked and not complete without one.

Does anyone else who depends on a knife if "that" situation arose - we don't need to get into the guns vs. knives debate in this thread, keep it to knives, they are always handy and easy to carry - feel the same way? That nothing else but an Emerson will do?

I think it's the whole package; the waved immediate opening, the loud and satisfying "click" as the blade locks into place, the whole "surprise factor" that does it for me. Maybe it adds a psychological edge.

Thoughts?
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My thought is you are never, put in a situation where you have to make the decision to brandish, or use the knife for self defence. As after the fact your actions will be judged by responding law enforcement.
 
When I hold an Emerson knife, I feel like I can ram that thing through a wall.
Emerson is my go-to knife.
rolf
 
Akapennypincher said:
My thought is you are never, put in a situation where you have to make the decision to brandish, or use the knife for self defence. As after the fact your actions will be judged by responding law enforcement.
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Totally understand. What I'm saying is if I were compromised, it would be a last resort, because I don't want a felony assault charge.

But if I were being robbed (I watch the news, sometimes people are just randomly chosen) or another dog rushed my dogs (like a pit bull - and I like pit bulls but no way am I gonna win bare-handed against one!) and was biting the crap outta him, I'd whip out my Emerson pronto and that should be the end of that if I do my job correctly.

And if it's knife against knife if I'm getting robbed, and I lose, well, that's my own damn fault. But at least I'm giving it my best shot!

That's all I'm saying. I'm not going down easy, and I feel better with an Emerson in my pocket over my other knives. More-prepared, maybe is the way to put it.
 
Akapennypincher said:
My thought is you are never, put in a situation where you have to make the decision to brandish, or use the knife for self defence. As after the fact your actions will be judged by responding law enforcement.
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Totally understand. What I'm saying is if I were compromised, it would be a last resort, because I don't want a felony assault charge.

But if I were being robbed (I watch the news, sometimes people are just randomly chosen) or another dog rushed my dogs (like a pit bull - and I like pit bulls but no way am I gonna win bare-handed against one!) and was biting the crap outta him, I'd whip out my Emerson pronto and that should be the end of that if I do my job correctly.

And if it's knife against knife if I'm getting robbed, and I lose, well, that's my own damn fault. But at least I'm giving it my best shot!

That's all I'm saying. I'm not going down easy, and I feel better with an Emerson in my pocket over my other knives. More-prepared, maybe is the way to put it.
 
^^I hear you loud and clear on that jmclfrsh. I feel the same way. If I were "out for a hike/walk then this animal came out of nowhere and attacked a kid/human", my Emerson would be inhand and ready to deal some damage to the assailant! Human to human...depends on the situation.
 
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jmclfrsh said:
Totally understand. What I'm saying is if I were compromised, it would be a last resort, because I don't want a felony assault charge.

But if I were being robbed (I watch the news, sometimes people are just randomly chosen) or another dog rushed my dogs (like a pit bull - and I like pit bulls but no way am I gonna win bare-handed against one!) and was biting the crap outta him, I'd whip out my Emerson pronto and that should be the end of that if I do my job correctly.

And if it's knife against knife if I'm getting robbed, and I lose, well, that's my own damn fault. But at least I'm giving it my best shot!

That's all I'm saying. I'm not going down easy, and I feel better with an Emerson in my pocket over my other knives. More-prepared, maybe is the way to put it.
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When I did Editorial Freelane Still Photography, I always carried some doggie pepper spray. Trust me the stret people got the word real fast I was not a target for a strong arm robbery. My gear was the target, and a couple of time I did. Use the spray, alway calling the cops, and a couple of time they found the people with the bad smelling orange spots on their clothing.
 
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jmclfrsh said:
Totally understand. What I'm saying is if I were compromised, it would be a last resort, because I don't want a felony assault charge.

But if I were being robbed (I watch the news, sometimes people are just randomly chosen) or another dog rushed my dogs (like a pit bull - and I like pit bulls but no way am I gonna win bare-handed against one!) and was biting the crap outta him, I'd whip out my Emerson pronto and that should be the end of that if I do my job correctly.

And if it's knife against knife if I'm getting robbed, and I lose, well, that's my own damn fault. But at least I'm giving it my best shot!

That's all I'm saying. I'm not going down easy, and I feel better with an Emerson in my pocket over my other knives. More-prepared, maybe is the way to put it.
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When I did Editorial Freelane Still Photography, I always carried some doggie pepper spray. Trust me the stret people got the word real fast I was not a target for a strong arm robbery. My gear was the target, and a couple of time I did. Use the spray, alway calling the cops, and a couple of time they found the people with the bad smelling orange spots on their clothing.
 
I definitely feel unprepared without an Emerson. I carry Striders a lot also but they just don't have the same feel. Recently I've been carrying a Super Roadhouse and it's definitely a blade to trust your life with, either as a weapon or otherwise. I have a corgi and live in and area with a lot of coyotes. I have no problem taking one out with an Emerson to protect my dog. Thankfully I've never had to.

I like that quote jmclfrsh, "Whenever you carry your Emerson, Ernest Emerson's got you back." Very cool.
 
I don't carry a knife as a weapon but like to have one that could be used in such a fashion as a last resort. I always carry pepper spray and a firearm so they would hopefully be used to defend myself before my knife ever would. The great thing about Emerson knives is that they make a great utility knife and a great defensive knife.
 
I rarely leave the house without an Emerson.

If I do, I've had a "blonde moment."
 
A knife is a tool and should be used as such. Your need of said tool may vary at any given moment. I choose to carry tools that can respond to many needs. Emerson's fall into that category.
 
I usually carry a gun except when at work but I think I would just give him my wallet, particularly if I just had a knife. If he stepped back with nothing I would pull out a gun probably and get my wallet back but I would hate to just pull out a knife if he had a gun hidden! That being said, I do feel better, if when I can't have a gun, that I have my Barrage 581 or something similar-just in case.
 
I would think long and hard before pulling a knife for "self defense"

A buddy of mine who rides in an outlaw motorcycle club, did just the opposite a number of years ago.

He was attacked by a member of another club swinging a baseball bat. He pulled out his well worn Buck 110 and stabbed his attacker 3 times. The dude he stabbed died 3 days later of massive internal injuries.

It seemed like a clear cut case of self defense (there where a number of witnesses), but he was charged with 2nd degree murder. He spent well over two years in Wende Correctional Facility unable to make a half million dollar bail waiting for trial. His club did a number of fund raisers to build up his defense fund and finally got him released on bail & hired a prominent defense lawyer.

He finally cut a deal with the prosecutor (he was too scared to take a chance on a guilty verdict in a trial) to cop to a manslaughter charge & was released for "time served" but not before racking up almost $100,000 in legal fees & agreeing to a felony conviction. After release, he had to report to a parole officer for ten years.

The crazy thing was, he had plenty of room at the time of the altercation to simply turn & flee but was too "macho" to do it. He told me years later that the decision to "stand & fight" was the worst mistake he had ever made in his life.

~John
 
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Jmorton10, I definitely feel what you are saying. Sometimes it can be a legal grey area. I will say though, the fact your buddy was a outlaw biker probably didn't help his case. I'm not saying he was wrong, it sounds like a clear cut self defense case. But if your friend wasn't part of an outlaw biker gang, he probably would have had a better chance.
 
Silvanus said:
But if your friend wasn't part of an outlaw biker gang, he probably would have had a better chance.
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I agree with that 100%, but the fact is if you use a knife on another person you are liable to be in a world of trouble whether you where justified or not.

~John
 
jmorton10 said:
I agree with that 100%, but the fact is if you use a knife on another person you are liable to be in a world of trouble whether you where justified or not.

~John
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Now a days anything you do to another person can be a serious offence. Your better to just stay clear of any and all trouble at all cost. If it were me personally, I would only use physical harm if it meant sparing another innocent life in danger especially a loved one. That way any charge i face will be I can live with.
 
i have a specific group of knives that i set aside that are carried strictly for self defense only. however, emerson is not the only knife i carry for self defense, i find some other brands also have good offerings, especially spyderco.

some of the knives i carry for protection are:

spyderco military - find i go to the military more than any other knife because its so light but big and easy to carry and open.
spyderco chinook
spyderco police 3
spyderco civilian
emerson cqc 8
emerson super cqc 7
emerson cqc 13
emerson mini cqc 15
al mar sere 2000
crkt hissatsu
benchmade bedlam
 
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