mortised handle (for Ryan)

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Ryan asked me about mortised handles, and I dug up these shots/text from about 4 years ago. While my shop tools have improved, the process is still the same.

Hope this helps Ryan :)

Back and forth, back and forth between those last few steps, until I get this-

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Using a facing mill to mill the micarta slabs flat-

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After I get them milled, I like to do some hand-planing on the granite plate to make sure there will be a nearly invisible seam in the handle-

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Drawing the tang profile onto the inside of the micarta slab-

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Starting to mill out the slot for the tang. I use the mic and check the exact tang thickness. It's 0.190" thick, so I set the mill to take off 0.095"

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I get it close with the mill... but like most things in my shop, it comes back to hand-work to get it the way I really want it. Filing that last little bit out-

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Checking the fit. BTW- If you're wondering why that hole is in the tang, it's for hanging the blade down into my molten salt bath as part of the heat-treat process. Normally it's only a 1/8" hole, but this one is a bit bigger-

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After milling/filing both halves, now I clamp them together loosely with a couple spring clamps to check the fit of the slabs as one piece-

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And this notion is taken directly from our local friend Terry Primos. Holding the handle by the end over the concrete floor. This is a tricky spot to find. If the tang slot is too tight of fit it will do this easily, but there will be a seem later as the halves aren't making contact with each other all the way around. Get it too loose, and quite obviously, it wouldn't hold the blade-

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I use two sacrificial indexing pins in the handle slabs. It forces them to come back together the way they're supposed to after the epoxy has been applied. Epoxy has a tendency to make the slabs slide around when you clamp them together.

After spending the time to get them to fit snug, you don't want them to go all over and not fit once the epoxy is cured.

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Here's what the slabs look like, just about ready to become one piece for good-

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Nice pictorial, One of these days I will have a milling machine! I also like the pop can epoxy mixing bowl.
 
wow thanks nick....i really appreciate the time you took to post the pics and description....i understand what the indexing pins are being used for(making sure everything lines up) but is that hole going all the way thru....do u incorporate the pins in your handle design or do u take them out and judt use them to ine things up?....i 'm not sure i understand that part....thanks again....ryan
 
You're welcome Ryan :)

The indexing pins are sacrificial. I put them in an area of the handle material where they will be cut or ground away when the handle is shaped.

I do the same thing with wood. If it's stag or ivory where I won't have much waste material, I'll use "blind" indexing pins that don't go all the way through the handle material.


Keith- That pop can mixing bowl is yet another bit of proof that my engineering degree paid off!!!! :D ;)
 
Hey Ryan, I was thinking about it, isn't this the knife of yours that I made?

Well, its handle was made this exact same way (about 7 years ago! where's the time go?!?!)

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that's not it nick....i'll go find a pic of the knife i own of yours...i bought it from the owner not you....ryan
 
this is the one i own....i have been tempted many times to use it!:eek:..i've always wanted to just whack into something with it....it has a great feeling to the handle...the countours on it are perfect.....it reminds me alot of my john fitch hunter...now that guy can make a serious handle....it has a beautiful paul long sheath it resides in too....ryan
 

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Oh that's the one! Okay, that one's only like 5.5 years old :D, and is NOT a mortised handle, lol :) Thanks Ryan! :)
 
I know this is old, but I found exactly what I needed Thanks again Nick! And it felt good pretending you were talking directly to me. ;)
 
Nick, what are your thoughts on the work involved for a mortised tang versus a block tang?
 
Couldn't you do this and include a pin/corby hole, and avoid the perfect fit issue? I really dislike broaching out G10. :mad:

What is the reasoning behind the no pin mortise? I'd love to see a pic of a finished handle to see the look, and how desirable it is.

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