Mountain Lion Deterrant

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I had no idea where to post this, and I'm sure it will probably get moved, but I just had to put it on here somewhere. I found this while researching dogs. I think it would be a good mountain lion, black bear, any other nasty wildlife deterrant.

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It is a Boerboel....a large speciman I think.
 
Yea, I am thinking that is one Big Fu@&ing Mutt..:D And at the very least having him/her by your side should be able to buy you some time to pump a few rounds into the adversarial Cougar and or whatever else is bent on your destruction.
 
Plus You could Ride Him to saftey:eek:

Bump badda bump badda bump badda bump BIG OLE DOG (BONANZA THEME)
Bump badda bump badda bump badda bump bump diddy bump BIG POOP
 
I hadn't thought of that.....I bet he makes some super size poops...My Pyrenees is enough to clean up after, and he only weighs 135lbs.
 
I recently moved out of Idaho (stupid military), and talking to several Rangers there, dogs are more dangerous to bring into the woods then most people expect. The problem is that your dog runs a hundred feet ahead of you on the trail and sees the bear. He then barks madly at the bear, and then comes running happily back to you, the bear in chase. Most people attempt to fight off the bear to save their beloved pet, with the usual result of a badly hurt/dead person. The term "bear bait" was used several times. :) So while that is a big dog, a grizzly would probably just consider it a snack. :)
 
That is one big pup!

Back in the late 70's I was in a boarding school in northern India. All the dogs I saw tended to be lab size or bigger and they tended to wear thick leather collars with wicked one to two inch spikes sticking out. These were not those prissy little chrome studs that people use to butch up their pampered pooches!

Big Custom, I used to have a pyr! Man I miss that big boy! "Brutus" was a year old and already 125lbs!

-- FLIX
 
corwise said:
I recently moved out of Idaho (stupid military), and talking to several Rangers there, dogs are more dangerous to bring into the woods then most people expect. The problem is that your dog runs a hundred feet ahead of you on the trail and sees the bear. He then barks madly at the bear, and then comes running happily back to you, the bear in chase. Most people attempt to fight off the bear to save their beloved pet, with the usual result of a badly hurt/dead person. The term "bear bait" was used several times. :) So while that is a big dog, a grizzly would probably just consider it a snack. :)
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i would think there isnt much defense against a grizzly that is intent on eating or attacking.

but a mountain lion or black bear? an aggressive and large enough dog could easily chase one off, correct? or not.
 
MORIMOTOM said:
i would think there isnt much defense against a grizzly that is intent on eating or attacking.

but a mountain lion or black bear? an aggressive and large enough dog could easily chase one off, correct? or not.
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Yes, that and the inherent fear that the cougar and black bear have of man should be enough to drive them away.

A grizzly as well, unless you surprise him, then he will just grind you and the dog into a soup and drink you:eek:

Predators as a whole do not take on prey that is well armed and can hurt them. They need to survive. The only animals in the wild who tend to overcome their survival instinct and take on terrible odds are the Wolverines and Grizzly. The wolverine will take on anything, except a large Grizzly. The Grizz is also such an animal and I have heard stories of Grizz' that fought for hours because neither would give way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGwUpM9QryU
 
I am absolutely positive that the dog in that picture would die a merciless and painful death at the paws of any Bear over 300lbs and a big Tom would gut it like a fish. Those dogs are powerful but slow, tame and not ready for primetime when dealing with a wild predator.
 
The Chef said:
I am absolutely positive that the dog in that picture would die a merciless and painful death at the paws of any Bear over 300lbs and a big Tom would gut it like a fish. Those dogs are powerful but slow, tame and not ready for primetime when dealing with a wild predator.
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true, but most black bears and cougars will run at the smell of man and bark of dog. It is a 100 year old instinct of being hunted. We drove these animals to nothing in the last century. They have an instinctive fear which can help us with a dog. If I actually wanted a combat dog, it would be a Tosa or Pit, but then it would have to be leashed as it would attack at first sight of the animal, thereby starting the fight you were trying to avoid. A pair of large terriers like Airedales or Jagd Terriers would be even better. They would wear the animal down and not let it get them. Kind of like the Rhodesian Ridgeback of africa use to do with lions.
 
First of, the photo is doctored-up, just look at the wall distorsion next to the dog. Actually, it's a pretty bad morph, the idiots only knew how to use Photoshop's "spherize" filter. The dog is a british bullmastiff, they get up to about 140 lbs., very gentle and pleasant dogs. Not natural born hunters anyway, they were bred to catch poachers on hunting estates in the old days.

Unless cornered, or a mom defending her babies, mountain lions and panthers won't atttack humans. We have panther in our area. People often see his tracks but nobody has ever seen the animal itself.
Grizzlys typically don't attack either, black bears sometimes do. A pair of trained hunting dogs can give a black bear the work-out of his life.
 
Cobalt said:
true, but most black bears and cougars will run at the smell of man and bark of dog. It is a 100 year old instinct of being hunted. We drove these animals to nothing in the last century. They have an instinctive fear which can help us with a dog. If I actually wanted a combat dog, it would be a Tosa or Pit, but then it would have to be leashed as it would attack at first sight of the animal, thereby starting the fight you were trying to avoid. A pair of large terriers like Airedales or Jagd Terriers would be even better. They would wear the animal down and not let it get them. Kind of like the Rhodesian Ridgeback of africa use to do with lions.
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Well, I will agree to disagree with you as instances of mountain lions in Southern California maiming people and killing both feral dogs and housepets is a big concern. The ban on hunting them has made them thirty years worth of brave. As an owner of pitbulls, Presa Canarios and my favorite Staffordshire Terriers I will definitely attest to your assertion that a pair or pack would most likely prevail over a cat or small bear. However that singular dog in that picture would be gutted by a big cat, medium or better bear and now I was thinking a pack of feral dogs would handily dispatch it as well. Granted if a person was with the dog they may be able to "shoo" the critter but if tooth comes to nail, that is a large, powerful housepet not the killing machine it would appear to be.

I love that quote by the way (sig).
 
Walt-FL said:
Unless cornered, or a mom defending her babies, mountain lions and panthers won't atttack humans. We have panther in our area. People often see his tracks but nobody has ever seen the animal itself.
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While true here in Florida, out west panther attacks have been increasing with an alarming frequency as more and more people take to the outdoors there. They tend to attack from above and behind so, according to a couple mountain biking/mountaineering friends of mine in colorado and utah, a lot of people have started wearing halloween masks on the back of their heads. Apparently, this seems to help keep panthers from attacking.

From what I understand, the florida panther is even more secretive than the already reclusive mountain lion. An afterthought. I wonder if this will change for us here in florida in the next decade as they have started to introduce western panthers into the bloodstream in the hopes of maintaining a viable population here in florida.
 
the instances of mountain lion attacks in ca that i am aware of are the result of construction encroaching into their hunting territory and driving off their food sources. since their area is about 100 square miles, iirc, they may return to a specific place and find it has no deer, but only housepets and joggers running on trails.

when they get hungry enough, they attack whatever is available.
 
The Chef said:
Well, I will agree to disagree with you as instances of mountain lions in Southern California maiming people and killing both feral dogs and housepets is a big concern. The ban on hunting them has made them thirty years worth of brave. As an owner of pitbulls, Presa Canarios and my favorite Staffordshire Terriers I will definitely attest to your assertion that a pair or pack would most likely prevail over a cat or small bear. However that singular dog in that picture would be gutted by a big cat, medium or better bear and now I was thinking a pack of feral dogs would handily dispatch it as well. Granted if a person was with the dog they may be able to "shoo" the critter but if tooth comes to nail, that is a large, powerful housepet not the killing machine it would appear to be.

I love that quote by the way (sig).
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yup and the fact that it is a bullmastiff tells me that it has not had combat in it's background for half a century, so it would get it's ass handed to it in a fight. But there is a good chance the animal will runoff before the fight begins. I wold still rather have a pit bull terrier even if it is smaller, it is relentless and will not stop. Even if the pit died, it would give it's owner the chance to either get away or help the dog and kill the animal while it's busy on the dog.

Most people do not realize how powerfull a cougar is. Pound for pound it is one of the strongest cats in the world.
 
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