MSP Core 4 Stove (Core 4 Bio-reactor Multifunction Stove)

Discussion in 'Outdoor Gear, Survival Equipment & More' started by AngryDaddyBird, Aug 15, 2014.

  1. knoefz

    knoefz

    Mar 20, 2009
    Read about that dishsoap trick before... sounds a bit messy to be honest.
    Do you just rub it on and let it dry on there? how long does that take?
    I'll give it a try next time I go out.

    I'm looking forward to that video :)
     
  2. AngryDaddyBird

    AngryDaddyBird

    720
    May 18, 2012
    I put it on my pot right before i use it. Apply liberally and leave it wet. I never tried letting it dry though??
    Now days I leave my pots blackish but my daughter always ends ip scrubbing them clean :)
     
  3. Raymond1000

    Raymond1000

    Oct 8, 2006
    A black pot is more efficient at absorbing heat. In the kitchen that makes little difference—though I do let the bottoms of my indoor pots blacken.

    In the field, with a backpacking stove, you want every advantage. A shiny pot that reflects heat away is not an advantage. Wash the outside of your pots. But don’t scrub the black off.
     
  4. AngryDaddyBird

    AngryDaddyBird

    720
    May 18, 2012
    Good point?

    I use to clean it all the time and now i just give it a quick scrub to get the powdery soot/ashes off and leave the rest.
    On the uther hand My daughter likes it clean to keep our gear clean as possible. Black does absorb heat quicker but it personal prefference. If i'm using a wood stove speed is usually not an issue for me. if I'm using an UL setup with alcohol it seems to make some difference if its darker. My main thing is I like a shirter wider pot for wood stoves so the flame can contact more surface area before leaving the pot. This has made a big difference in my results on faster times than a black pot. Less than a minute difference with 2 identical pots (one shiny and one blackend).
    really comes down to an individuals uses. Speed, cleanliness, efficiency, ect.
     
  5. knoefz

    knoefz

    Mar 20, 2009
    Made some tea out in the woods with my new Bushcraft UK this afternoon.... ofcoarse the MSP Core was with me :)
    Batonned a piece of beechwood, made some nice thin curls to start my fire, loaded my stove and lit the thing up with my firesteel.
    Worked like a charm... tea tastes so much better this way! Too bad the weather didn't contribute to the fun as it started to rain while I was prepping for my fire :(

    I'm trying to get better in estimating the amount of wood I need, but I always end up prepping too much, the Core 4 is so efficient!
    Used less than half of the log in the first pic to get about 400ml of water boiling. The log is beechwood, about 50 cm long and about 7 cm in diameter.

    Some quick cellphone pics:

    Used a folding saw to get a nice dry piece of beechwood from a dead tree:
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    Baton it into nice sticks to feed my fire
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    Thin curls to light with a firesteel:
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    First flames... yay, always give me a nice feeling :)
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    Lets get cooking
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    See the wood that still available on the right side of the stove:
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    Ofcoarse when I got home I realized I forgot to try the dishwash soap trick on my kettle ... sigh... of to scrub my kettle now ;)
     
  6. knoefz

    knoefz

    Mar 20, 2009
    I got some questions about how I carry 'all that gear', so I took some pics to show the compact size of it all.
    Below are all the seperate parts:

    The stove is inside the black baggy with MSP Core print on it, the cup fits in the kettle, inside the cup fit a package of noodles.
    I carry my water in a Platypus 2L blatter, fill it to my needs before I go.
    Pick a knife depending on my mood :) and don't forget the folding saw (forgot it on these pics, but it's about the size of the knife and very light weight) and a titanium spork to eat comfortably.

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    All my cooking gear is inside the grey cinchbag with the orange paracord to prevent everything in my backpack getting covered with soot.

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    This all fit in my daypack (Deuter Orion about 22 L) (forgot exact size of the backpack).
    Leaves me plenty of space for a raincoat, sweater, muslibars, dog food or whatever :)

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  7. AngryDaddyBird

    AngryDaddyBird

    720
    May 18, 2012
    I'm Still working on the "how much wood" myself.
     
  8. AngryDaddyBird

    AngryDaddyBird

    720
    May 18, 2012
    seems you already got a good pack setup and some great pictures!
     
  9. lazy otter

    lazy otter Banned BANNED

    Apr 4, 2013
    Yeah I've gotta get one of these!
     
  10. knoefz

    knoefz

    Mar 20, 2009
    Went for a quick camping trip this weekend....
    Coffee made on the Core 4 :D

    the surroundings
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    the tools :)
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    Starting with some coffee at breakfast
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    And ofcoarse some coffee after dinner
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    Campire with something stronger to drink :)
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    First attempt at a video :)
    Can't embed it from this host... or am I doing something wrong?
    Hope you guys can see it.

    [video]https://vid.me/xtzE[/video]

    [video=vimeo;142362588]https://vimeo.com/142362588[/video]
     
    Last edited: Oct 14, 2015
  11. AngryDaddyBird

    AngryDaddyBird

    720
    May 18, 2012
    Great pictures! Seems like you got Using the Core 4 down!
     
  12. AngryDaddyBird

    AngryDaddyBird

    720
    May 18, 2012
    How do you like it?

    I got several myself and its great.
     
  13. lazy otter

    lazy otter Banned BANNED

    Apr 4, 2013
    I was referring to the whole unit! I don't have any stove right now !
     
  14. knoefz

    knoefz

    Mar 20, 2009
    You should :D
    And then share some pics here when you're using it :)


    Thanks!
    It's so much more fun and statisfying then a gas stove :)
    Should have bought one much sooner.
     
  15. inkynate

    inkynate

    Sep 4, 2010
    Sweet thread, just ordered the Ultimate Core 4 package. Might be time to retire my old MSR Whisperlite.
     
  16. AngryDaddyBird

    AngryDaddyBird

    720
    May 18, 2012
    Its fun to use a White gas stove and i still do on occasion but I love wood fires. Let us know how you like it and post a fee pictures when you can.
     
  17. inkynate

    inkynate

    Sep 4, 2010
    Yeah, "retire" was just an exaggeration, don't plan to get rid of it or anything.

    I have messed around with some diy rocket stoves in the past, but somehow never knew that stuff like this was on the market. Def look forward to checking out the MSP stove.
     
  18. verysimple

    verysimple

    165
    Apr 4, 2012
    What's different in Core 5?
     
  19. inkynate

    inkynate

    Sep 4, 2010
    I think it's mainly just bigger and has two feed ports, iirc.

    My one criticism of their web site is that it would be nice if they had a comparison chart or side-by-by summaries for the different models. I found it pretty confusing at first.
     
  20. AngryDaddyBird

    AngryDaddyBird

    720
    May 18, 2012
    Core 5 has 5 walls vs 4 walls of the core 4.
     

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