Muhammad Ali dead.

"move like a butterfly sting like a bee",these are the first words i remember when thinkin' about the "greatest pugilist " ever!cassius clay, a.k.a muhammad ali!tonight i drink one on him.this is a fight nobody can win!
 
RIP, you put up a great fight both in the ring and against the scourge of this ugly disease.
 
He was not a nice man, nor a very moral one, but he was a very good boxer and highly entertaining.
 
He was not a nice man, nor a very moral one, but he was a very good boxer and highly entertaining.

Of course he wasn't nice. He said it himself, "I killed a rock, injured a stone, hospitalized a brick. I'm so mean I make medicine sick." ;)
 
RIP. He changed the boxing world. I have never been a big fan of watching two people beating or trying to beat their opponent's brains out, but he was quite the showmen. I liked the news channels paying tribute to him. As DocT said, he was not a nice man from my point of view, nor was he a moral man.
 
Morals are a person's standards of behavior or beliefs concerning what is and is not acceptable for them to do. He seemed to have his own morals and was true to them despite what may have been popular at the time.
 
Whether Ali was a "nice" or "moral" man is strictly from the point of view of the observer. Not a single person on this earth has always displayed "perfect" conduct 100% of the time in his/her life. We ALL have some skeletons in our closets. Maybe Ali wasn't perfect, but neither is anybody else. He did do a lot of good for other people in his life. IMO, it took great courage for him to stand by his convictions, especially at the time that he did.

Was he not nice because when young he was a braggart? That was part of a persona that he adopted, and it worked very well for him. I believe he was inspired to do that by observing the wrestler Gorgeous George, who received far more attention than he did at some public appearance. But to take this further, how many young males, especially young athletes, are NOT brash and arrogant? Ali used his outrageous persona to not only gain attention and entertain, but to get into his opponents' heads. It worked.

How many who negatively judge Ali ever met him, much less actually knew him personally? How many understand how much disrespect and discrimination he continued to encounter even after he won the world championship?

IMO, Ali should have retired either after the Rumble in the Jungle, or the Thrilla in Manilla. Unfortunately, like many fighters, he stayed in the game too long, and paid the consequences for it. Even though, even by those fights, much of the damage had already been done.

Muhammad Ali's decline was particularly sad to me, because my own father suffered from Parkinson's for over 20 years before he passed in 2000. I helped my mom care for my dad during his last years.

Ali is now free of his debilitating disease, and may he rest in peace. To me, he was far more than just a great boxer. He transcended being a professional athlete. Was he perfect? Of course not. In fact, I've yet to know, meet, or even hear of a single "perfect" person in this lifetime, myself definitely included. Muhammad Ali left a legacy that will ensure he will be remembered, in a positive manner, for many, many decades after he's gone. He must have done SOME good for others. How many people, even people we think of as 'famous', will be remembered in a positive way (or in any way) that long after they're gone?

Jim
 
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...He must have done SOME good for others. How many people, even people we think of as 'famous', will be remembered in a positive way (or in any way) that long after they're gone?

Jim

Muhammad Ali did more generous and peaceful and honorable things, at his own personal expense and risk, than I ever will. RIP.
 
If you want to worship someone for “floating like a butterfly and holding like a kola bear, and for dodging the draft and standing by while other Americans died, knock yourself out.

who ever said we are not to think and use our minds? That is what Ali did. He used his MIND and didn't just go into a war without THINKING first.

He used his mind and his physical strength and he was equally tough in both.
 
I wasn't the fondest of Ali not going to lie about it . My entire life I considered him an arrogant racist and never really bothered to dig any deeper on the subject .

Since his death I'm been reading about him a lot . I still think he was an arrogant racist , but he did do good as well. I'm not one to really disrespect the dead ,however if I didn't care for a person in life that does not change in their death.

He was one hell of a boxer though .
 
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I sometimes wonder if it is the US role to fight the fight that might never end like Vietnam. Eventually people get tired of it and elect politicians who say we'll get out. Same goes for the current President and Iraq. Look at the mess over there now. I don't think we can fix it.
 
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