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Mule Team ( MT46P/MT46S) MagnaMax Release Date!

DA170 said:
AEB-L isn’t the newest latest greatest 😒 and people can’t sharpen the Ceramic mule, With most coming dull supposedly. Also flippers can’t make a profit because it’s $150 ! Most of the fast sellouts happen when the secondary “buyers”realize there’s some profit to be had. Unfortunately
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FWIW, I think AEB-L is the best of all of the MTs released in terms of usability overall.

Ceramic was/is a gimmick but I bought 1 anyway.

It's funny that sellers on EB are trying to sell the AEB-L for $149+ & the Ceramic for $240+ when you can still buy them direct from Spyderco for $80 & $150, respectively. LOL! :cool:

Should have bought a 15V but I have a Z-Max which Larrin rates about the same for toughness, edge retention & corrosion resistance.

So, I don't think it matters. EB sellers ridiculously are asking about $300 for the 15V now. 🤷‍♂️
 
sgt1372 said:
FWIW, I think AEB-L is the best of all of the MTs released in terms of usability overall.
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I agree! I’ve got some great kitchen knives in AEB-L …well beyond VG10 in my use. The A11 and 20CV Mules are my other favorites of many.
 
Staff at the Spyderco shop seems very well organized this time around.

Already got a notice that a USPS label has been prepared & that the knives are ready to ship, which is much faster than I've received such notice in the past.
 
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I just received notice that my MagnaMax order was delivered to my PO Box this morning. ☺️

Update:

Just picked them up & looked at them & then put them back in their boxes. Not going to post any pics unless I add scales to them..

They look just like the ones pictured at the top of this thread. ;)
 
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Too soon to say. I should probably get out a Magnacut as well and use them side by side since I'm sure that will be the big question on people's minds. Frankly, Magnacut did not impress me.
 
Compared to LC200N, it's pretty good. Compared to K390, S110V, S90V or Maxamet, it's pretty lame. Corrosion resistance is just below flavor on my list of priorities, and two steps below ease of sharpening, and it's edge-holding is not spectacular.
 
yablanowitz said:
Compared to LC200N, it's pretty good. Compared to K390, S110V, S90V or Maxamet, it's pretty lame. Corrosion resistance is just below flavor on my list of priorities, and two steps below ease of sharpening, and it's edge-holding is not spectacular.
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Interesting assessment.

Will be looking forward to your opinion re MagnaMax in comparison.
 
yablanowitz said:
Compared to LC200N, it's pretty good. Compared to K390, S110V, S90V or Maxamet, it's pretty lame.
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Magnacut is tougher than K390, S110V, S90V or Maxamet.
For example at 63HRC Magnacut is nearly 2x the toughness of K390.
It means you can have more accute edge (and thus more edge holding) for the same level of chipping resistance.
 
yablanowitz said:
Maybe so, but it wears down quicker in my use.
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Then you should lower your edge angle.
The toughness of Magnacut allow you to do this.
From this article on Knife Steel Nerds :

"Edge angle had by far the strongest effect on edge retention, much stronger than other effects".

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Strength (high hardness) is what allows an edge to hold shape at acute geometries. Acute geometries increase cutting ability and overall performance. I will digress, but knowing how to properly handle your knives as cutting tools mitigates much of the whole toughness debate within a ~3.5" blade format.
 
W weeping minora P patrickguignot

Both valid points.

I agree with Patrick though that the end user should experiment with lower angles.

It's eye opening to witness the power of geometry with either thicker angles for toughness or lower angles for increased cutting performance.

Unfortunately most folks will only understand a steels performance from a factory edge and a pull through sharpener.
 
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