multiple requests for one knife???

The drawing is the best plan IMO but is it accepted to allow other names in the box that will not be at the show? I have a knife that somebody wants and I'm going to the PKA and theyre going to the ABS show. I want to include them in my drawing also. Is that ethical? I think it is but would like opinions.
 
Gee Nick i wish i had your problems. Just Kidding, i like the box/lottery idea allot it seems the most fair and it is kinda cool to see everyone comeing back to your table to see if they won.
 
Bruce,

I don't think there is a perfect solution. However I will not place a name in the box of someone who is not there in person. However if the show has been open for an hour or two and the knife has not sold I would then go ahead and mark it sold for the person not present. Personally I don't think collectors that travel to a show should have to compete with collectors who did not. Those collectors spent nearly as much as the makers did to attend and they should be rewarded for that.

Just my opinion. Good luck at PKA.
 
Sumo wrestling tournament and the winner gets to buy it. The idea of having to dress up in that thong will weed out the stragglers.:D But seriously, the drawing is the only option I can think of other than selling to the guy who was quickest on the draw when you posted it on here. It wouldn't be the first time that a knife showed up at a show with a "sold" sticker on it.
Just checked the original post and the winner would appear to be our friend Mr. Starr if he was serious and he usually is. Of course, this is assuming that there is not some specific rule that says you can't show knives at the ABS Show that are not for sale.
 
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joshsmith said:
Bruce,

I don't think there is a perfect solution. However I will not place a name in the box of someone who is not there in person. However if the show has been open for an hour or two and the knife has not sold I would then go ahead and mark it sold for the person not present. Personally I don't think collectors that travel to a show should have to compete with collectors who did not. Those collectors spent nearly as much as the makers did to attend and they should be rewarded for that.

Just my opinion. Good luck at PKA.
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I totally agree Josh. Show knives should be for guys/gals who attend the shows.

Jerry Fisk does same as you, if a knife is unsold after 3 hours from the doors opening, then the first call-in to his cell phone gets it.
 
Well Josh can answer the question better than I can but last year I believe that all knives present had to be for sale when the show opened. Is that right Josh?

Nick after what happened to your knives last year maybee you should ship it.

jdm61 said:
Sumo wrestling tournament and the winner gets to buy it. The idea of having to dress up in that thong will weed out the stragglers.:D But seriously, the drawing is the only option I can think of other than selling to the guy who was quickest on the draw when you posted it on here. It wouldn't be the first time that a knife showed up at a show with a "sold" sticker on it.
Just checked the original post and the winner would appear to be our friend Mr. Starr if he was serious and he usually is. Of course, this is assuming that there is not some specific rule that says you can't show knives at the ABS Show that are not for sale.
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There appears to be some pent up demand for your steel Nick.

I think $1,250 is a very fair value for the piece.

Let everyone at the show drop cards, if no one buys it for $1,250, mail it to me.

Problem solved.

P
 
Bill Burke said:
Well Josh can answer the question better than I can but last year I believe that all knives present had to be for sale when the show opened. Is that right Josh?

Nick after what happened to your knives last year maybee you should ship it.
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So we're back to the sumo idea. ;-)
 
NickWheeler said:
I get overwhelmed people want to buy something I built with my hands in the first place.... So not being able to accommodate all the folks that show enough interest in your work that they'll lay their hard earned money down... is hard to swallow.

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I hate to be Captain Obvious, but, ummm..... MAKE MORE KNIVES!

;)

Roger
 
joshsmith said:
Bruce,

I don't think there is a perfect solution. However I will not place a name in the box of someone who is not there in person. However if the show has been open for an hour or two and the knife has not sold I would then go ahead and mark it sold for the person not present. Personally I don't think collectors that travel to a show should have to compete with collectors who did not. Those collectors spent nearly as much as the makers did to attend and they should be rewarded for that.

Just my opinion. Good luck at PKA.
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Point well taken Josh. This would also help ensure the shows continue.
 
As a committee we ask that you have only knives available for purchase DURING THE PREVIEW. That way collectors can look at knives they actually have a chance to buy. Once the 2 hour preview has ended feel free to set a previously sold knife out for display.
 
joshsmith said:
As a committee we ask that you have only knives available for purchase DURING THE PREVIEW. That way collectors can look at knives they actually have a chance to buy. Once the 2 hour preview has ended feel free to set a previously sold knife out for display.
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Well that's a good thing. :thumbup:

Nick has completed a spectacular knife for me. It's been a pending order for a while. He'd like to show it there at the least. Jeez, you guys will see it before me. :p

THis means there will be TWO knives at a minimum to be shown by the prolific Nick Wheeler, JS.

:D

Coop
 
Well I guess Coop's integral will be available for sale for $20,000 then! ;) :p Just kidding :D

Thanks for the input Josh... it's nice to get it right from the horse's mouth.

You guys might be onto something with this whole, "make more knives" shtick ;)
 
Nick, now that you have all of the great advice, I hope you will have the balls to do whatever you want to do or whatever is best for YOU.

Paul
 
One option to not disappoint anyone by showing it to them beforehand is to keep a picture of it and post it online after the show saying if it was sold or not. It could attract more people to the show by keeping them guessing what you will have. :p

The box idea definitely seems the way to go and I think its only fair that the ones at the show get first dibs on anything. If there are requests for a knife beforehand you can always do a draw after the show if it doesn't sell there.

As was already mentioned though whatever works for you is the best way to go. :)

Phil

P.S your work is amazing!
 
Well, first of all, raise your price for that knife by at least 20%. If you've got something that is in demand and all you've got to fulfill that demand is your time, then your time in making it, and therefore the knife, is more valuable.
 
Since the Blade Show has a 2 hour preview, no sales period, I think the box with names and a draw would be the fairest. I also think that since the knife was made specifically for the show that attendees should have preference. This is from someone who is not fond of knife/gun shows in general and probably won't be at the ABS SA show.
 
Nick if ya want my honest opinion when you first put up the knife yu said it was for sale at the show.

So sell it at the show

I know what prices you sell your knives for and to be truthful they are much less than I believe your knives are worth.

If i where you and planning on keeping prouduction as low as it has been I would do what Coop suggested and have a silent auction that way you will get the max dollar for the fruilts of your labor.

No this is not fair but hell what is

You are only young good looking and popular for a certain amount of time . Take advantage of it and put the most money that you can in your pocket while you can.

By the way your not that good looking or young anymore so take advantage of whats left over which is being popular:D


P.S. maybe I can get pappy to accidentaly mail it to me instead of you;)
 
Thanks for all the input folks! :)

Just for the record, I didn't mean to imply under any circumstances that the knife would be sold prior to the show opening. I definitely want it available when "the bell rings." I just got overwhelmed with requests and didn't know the best way to handle them.

I was mostly thinking along the lines of "is a box the best solution, or too pretentious for a low level maker like me?" "can you sell it to a collector who is there buying for other collectors?" "what about a phone-in sale?"

And as per the details of using a box....

Not allowing collectors names in the box that aren't there was weighing on me heavily as I see both Josh and Kevin's points about making the effort/expense to be at the show. But I also know from having a hectic work and school schedule for the last 4 years that there are sometimes things you just can't get out of in order to get to a knife event (for me it was hammer-ins).

Even though I love the new show location...San Antonio is actually a real pain in the ass to get to from Washington state. There are no direct flights from Seattle or Portland, and it ends up being an all day affair to get there for me... so I can see where it would be extremely difficult for some folks to get there. (devil's advocate shall say, "well you WILL be there, so it's possible"). ;)

If requests came in from folks I'd never heard of it would be simpler (but still you don't want to discourage new business!), but if there's a collector (or six, lol) that have been very loyal and supportive to you as a maker over the years then there's a high level of respect and appreciation for that support that you can't just ignore.

Why don't you collectors just make this easy and come to all the shows!?!?! Problem solved!!! :p ;) :p (devil's advocate says, "make more knives jack ass!!!)

Thanks everyone :D
 
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