My Anti-Knife Parents...Help!

[belfagor]

you have no choice. Tell him that knives will be in his custody and that you'll be using them under his supervision. After a short while chances are that he will start to appreciate knives as well and if not at least he'll start to trust you.

 

[_habit_]

I too am 15, and buy knives, however my mom and dad really have nothing against them. I don't really talk to my dad about knives, but I do talk with my mom about them, pros and cons of each, when I'm planning on buying them, so on and so forth. All together, she doesn't have a problem with me spending $100+ on a knife (it's my money which I work for), as I think she can put it in comparison to purses, shoes, diamond necklaces... However, we've come to a pretty fair 2 knives a year agreement, which saves her the worry that I'm throwing away all my money, and, well, it prevents me from spending all my money on knives!


Now, when it comes to convincing your parents to allow you to buy a knife, you have to reason/bargain with them, make them see the need from your perspective, otherwise, you're wasting oxygen. Ask yourself the questions, then tell them the answers: What are you going to be using the knife/knives for? How often would you be using it? Would you be using it responsibly (compared to waving it around in peoples faces)? Would you be safe (see: peoples faces)? Would you take care of the knife? How would it keep its value (a used rare knife is still a rare knife)? Talking is the first step, and it's a pretty easy one, just plan it out beforehand (chances are, mliu8n, that your dad isn't coming up with his responses on the spot).

Anyways, I hope that helped, maybe you got some good ideas from that, maybe not, either way I wish you luck!

P.S.: What NDallyn said is very very wise, so read that carefully and memorize it -- and perhaps wait until next month (or November!) to buy more knives, because $400 is a lot of money to spend on something in a month, and it could be that your father is simply trying to prevent you from making a financial mistake.

 

[KY Ratshooter]

I am a 57 year old father and grandfather.
Also a school teacher
Also a knife builder. I have work on every continent except Antartica and all countries in Europe and South America. All three of my sons have carried knives I made into combat. I was given my first knife when I was 4 and I do not know at the present time how many knives I own, so I am getting close to "enough".

I would not press this issue with your Dad.

$400 in one month at age 15 can only be discribed as ...lucky to be alive and able to keyboard!

Send them back and get a refund, immidiately!

If the kitchen is the only place knives are considered appropriate then go to the kitchen. Do some cooking. Slice and dice some veggies. Cube some meat for kabobs. Chop some lettice. Become a familiar presence in the kitchen on a daily basis and HELP. Let them get used to seeing you there with a knife in your hand and using it right and responsibly.

Then go buy yurself a nice Henkil 4" paring knife. Bring it in and put it in the knife block in the kitchen. Leave it there unless you are preparing food. Keep it sharp and it will be an asset to your kitchen, you will too.

(I taught a survival course this summer and used only a 5" Old Hickory paring knife for every task required for 10 days. The Henkil is a much better blade)

Join a scout troop and give yourself an excuse to ask for an outdoor knife. Going camping once a month instead of once a year could justify the presence of an outdoor knife and your long term behavior will seal the deal for you.

 

[65535]

I always had good luck with my parents not caring about my knives at 17, as long as I don't bug them about the forum.

There may be something to say about the person you are rather than your parents, maybe they don't feel safe giving someone with your attributes a knife. Look at it from their side, what kinda of kid are you to them?

 

[OrangeJoe]

I like the point made about helping out in the kitchen...

i totally understand what you are saying. In fact, he never yelled at me at all. When I told him I spent $400, he asked why and what knives I bought, I told him. He is a business man, and he could also see that it wasnt the worst deal.

Also, why don't you clean those knives up (I almost bid on that lot) take good pics and resell most individually.

You can keep the Spydie and Triple Action and the gift Leatherman. Then show your BusinessDad the profit made, how you only kept such and such knives because of quality, etc.

I think he would appreciate your business sense and the fact that you seem to be collecting knives due to specific attributes, not hoarding a 'bunch of knives'.

BE sure to present your earnings as a percent of your total invesment.

Try not to say something like: 'Hey dad when was the last time you got a 230% ROI in two weeks?

 

[mmarkh]

Wel soem people never adjust. Im 20 years old and in the u.s army presidential old gaurd, my parents still cant stand me having a knife clipped to my pocket. i have a 7000+ dollarknife collection

ive been interested in knives since before i cna remember and really the only thing your gonna be able to do is wait till your older and move out.

at 15 your really not a kid anymore. the problem is not that he thinks they are toys more than he thinks its a weapon, alot of people have problems differentiating between the 2.

ur best bet is just to keep shoiwing them u are responsible as others have stated.

best of luck my heart goes out to u.

At 15 he is still a kid.20 is still a kid.Just show over time that you are responsible and your parents might ease up.They probably feel that blowing that much money in such a short time that you aren't being responsible.A ton of money in knives won't pay for a car or car insurance which you will probably be wanting soon.Listen to your parents and slow down a little and they will ease up on you.

 

[Thalestin]

I would suggest that you get a small slip joint or other friendly knife. Use that and illustrate how it is useful. I think carrying around a bally or other larger blades is not such a good idea. How would they be useful to a kid? They look like weapons and your parents will most definatly see them that way.

Most people find it kind of odd when you carry a knife. Most of my friends thought it was kind of strange. After a while though they got used to it and often ask to use my knives for misc. tasks such as taking out a sliver, cutting open wraping etc.

Knives are very useful tools but they can also be seen as weapons. Anyways, good luck with it.

 

[GarageBoy]

Go with a slip joint, or small gent's knife. I thought I was invincible to being legal until I got ticketed. Also, watch how you spend your money. Yes knives are cool, but so is money in the bank for future expenditures

 

[The Mastiff]

I don't really mean to rain on anyones parade but when you live in someones house you are obligated to follow the rules. If they say no knives, find somewhere else to keep them I guess. Don't try to be sneaky and hide them. Men are supposed to not act like that. Honor. Never give it up , especially for convienance. BTW, that means no lying too. Joe

 

[mliu8n]

Go with a slip joint, or small gent's knife. I thought I was invincible to being legal until I got ticketed. Also, watch how you spend your money. Yes knives are cool, but so is money in the bank for future expenditures

what if you carry a Vic on your key chain, is that illegal?



thanks for the great advices guys...I think I will talk with my dad again tonight (my mom has no problem with them, just that I dont carry them around)

 

[mliu8n]

I like the point made about helping out in the kitchen...



Also, why don't you clean those knives up (I almost bid on that lot) take good pics and resell most individually.

You can keep the Spydie and Triple Action and the gift Leatherman. Then show your BusinessDad the profit made, how you only kept such and such knives because of quality, etc.

I think he would appreciate your business sense and the fact that you seem to be collecting knives due to specific attributes, not hoarding a 'bunch of knives'.

BE sure to present your earnings as a percent of your total invesment.

Try not to say something like: 'Hey dad when was the last time you got a 230% ROI in two weeks?

haha, the knives look a lot nicer in real life.

http://s131.photobucket.com/albums/p282/cutlerylover/?action=view&current=IMGP7768.flv

here is a video cutlerylover made for the knives.

 

[razorsdescent]

But I just bought 3 ccc's for 30 dollars in total that im selling to my friends.

Your kidding right???

or is a triple c something different where i am??

if your serious dont post your business on a public forum.

wait you mean charming china cheapies, oh the relief.

 

[rabrador]

Good post about the Boy Scouts carry privilege. I was an Eagle Scout and you must pass and test and continue to show good safety habits to be allowed to card a knife or use a hatchet. The card is called a "Totin' Chip" and if a leader or senior Scout sees someone using an edged tool unsafely you either cut off a corner of the card (fourth corner and its gone), or if it's bad enough, revoke the privilege.

Also note that in the eighties the Scouts stopped carrying fixed blade knives due to safety concerns and allowed only folders and preferably lock blades.

 

[johnny reb]

I got bit by the knife bug when I was seven. I saw one at a Sprouse rietz(remember those?) store. My Mom said "No, You will cut yourself. My Dad said ,that if I earned the money I could buy it. I think that he thought that if I had to work for it , that I would lose interest. Well, worked my seat off, but got the money, and bought the knife. Mom was right. I cut myself the first day. Not a bad cut, but enough to teach me that my new knife was not a toy.From that day on, I learned to respect a knife as a tool. As a young boy growing up in the country, a knife was a very handy tool. Cutting kite string, whittling, cleaning fish, sharpening sticks to whip apples. I have had a knife in my pocket ever since then( i am 43 now). I don`t cut much kite string any more, but still cut myself once and awhile. In three years, you can buy all the knives you want, untill you get married. Sometimes Wives don`t understand.

 

[Keith_H]

$400 may be a lot of money but that is not a monthly thing, sure if i wanted I could go out and buy a sweet 2 x 72" grinder for $1500 but ill have too give it some more thought.

If you already bought a box of knives, than what are we discussing here?

 

[mliu8n]

$400 may be a lot of money but that is not a monthly thing, sure if i wanted I could go out and buy a sweet 2 x 72" grinder for $1500 but ill have too give it some more thought.

If you already bought a box of knives, than what are we discussing here?

that after I bought the knives, my dad started to have concerns

 

[GarageBoy]

Keychain SAK is fine here. Keep em outta class outta school. If someone sees it, they'll wanna
A. snitch
B. play with it

 

[FireInvestigator]

Let your parents know that this is just something that interests you. You sound like a bright kid, I bet your parents are proud of you. Show them this forum, Your parents are smart people,they raised a bright young man (you). Show them that you have fun interacting with others who have the same interest from around the world. Business people,Photographers,Firefighters,Policeofficers,Knifemakers,Hunters,Fishermen,kids your age and younger..... see where I'm getting at here? Whatever your mom and dad do for a living you can find someone here who does the same thing.
Being both a Firefighter and an Investigator (Guns and Hoses ) I have met many a firefighter and cop here to compare tools with. Stamps,Coins,glass bottles and old beer can collecting dont interest me. Cutting tools do. Always have.

 

[mliu8n]

Let your parents know that this is just something that interests you. You sound like a bright kid, I bet your parents are proud of you. Show them this forum, Your parents are smart people,they raised a bright young man (you). Show them that you have fun interacting with others who have the same interest from around the world. Business people,Photographers,Firefighters,Policeofficers,Knifemakers,Hunters,Fishermen,kids your age and younger..... see where I'm getting at here? Whatever your mom and dad do for a living you can find someone here who does the same thing.
Being both a Firefighter and an Investigator (Guns and Hoses ) I have met many a firefighter and cop here to compare tools with. Stamps,Coins,glass bottles and old beer can collecting dont interest me. Cutting tools do. Always have.

thank you for the heads up.

Here is a note to all:

I have talked with my dad. We agreed that it will be fine, as long as I do not buy any more knives (until I need them, which wont be anytimes soon, I hope )

Im keeping the BM42, the SOG PE, the Cybertool for sure. I will keep the cold steel triple action until I find a good price for it. Im giving my dad the Leahterman Wave as a present. The rest 6 I will sell. If only for 30 dollars each, I still have 180...not bad =]

I also agreed that I will not carry any of these knives out of my room.

 

[Keith_H]

I also agreed that I will not carry any of these knives out of my room.

So I take it that there is a legal age limit for carrying knives, because I am your age and I EDC my leatherman wave almost everywhere (except school)