My apologies to all of those I annoyed in the BF Kershaw Group Buy Thread...

[mcraft]

Hi All, RedDevil, Blues, and the rest of you were right, and I want to apologize to everyone who had to deal with my off topic, long winded posts in the Group Buy thread. I am a newbie here, and from now on I will act like one, know my place, and keep my posts on topic. Please forgive my previous mistakes, this forum looks to have a lot of great people and is a culture that I would like to be a part of, and I got off on the wrong foot, my fault, for which I have no excuse. I blame my new found enthusiasm/addiction for blades, but that is weak at best, I know better. Please give me a second chance instead of leaving me annoying guy bucket .

 

[jfever311]

Gibbs rule #6: Never apologize. It's a sign of weakness.

 

[Morrow]

Moving to Feedback.

 

[Blues]

Mike, as I mentioned privately, you owe me no apology but I am happy that you have given thought to the situation and come upon a path leading out of the woods.

I'm sure many of us will look forward to your participation as a productive member over the months and years to come. Best of luck to you.

 

[RevDevil]

Well stated Blues.

 

[mcraft]

Gibbs rule #6: Never apologize. It's a sign of weakness.

Well I am f*cked, why didn't someone (like my dad :/) tell me Gibbs rule #6 before I got married (10 yrs ago now).

 

[JDieseljoe69]

Gibbs rule #6: Never apologize. It's a sign of weakness.

Admitting your wrong and apologizing for it is a true sign of a MAN!!

 

[jfever311]

You guys really need to lighten up.

 

[Allen R.]

Nothing wrong with apologizing when you do wrong, I don't know what you did, but alot can be forgiven here on the forum except for THEFT, which i have seen people be forgiven for that on here, but thats a whole other story, As far as what jfever311 said, I believe he was joking...

 

[mcraft]

Nothing wrong with apologizing when you do wrong, I don't know what you did, but alot can be forgiven here on the forum except for THEFT, which i have seen people be forgiven for that on here, but thats a whole other story, As far as what jfever311 said, I believe he was joking...

Basically, I posted a whole bunch of long winded, off topic posts in the group buy thread. I have worked for a data center for 10 years that houses the computer systems that run 20% of US healthcare HCIT systems (our system breaks, the hospital stops, people can die on the table if something happens and they cannot pull up the chart for example, or if a myocardial infarction comes into the ER, they cannot kick off the care set (a bunch of orders/workflow in our software that automatically setups up the care plans and orders the drugs, etc.) to help save that patient's life), meaning I work a lot, never know when I am going to be working because computer break to dang much (on call 24x7x365), and so usually only get a few hours of sleep. Sooo... sometimes after a long day at work and then getting paged at 1, I was hitting the forums to wind down so I can get back to sleep, and at that point I am usually delirious and have diarrhea of the fingers (can be delirious during the day too if I was up all night fixing something, it wipes you out, adrenaline gets pumping when hospital is down and you gotta figure it out and fix it, the come down sucks). Basically, this is a new (and I was instantly addicted) hobby for me, and I shat ALOT in that post, and basically annoyed the piss out of every one.

I will NEVER steal, that just ain't in me.

Oh yeah, I was kidding back with jfever311 said, although at the time I had no idea what Gibbs law was, but I was guessing one of them also HAD to be to never get married, at least not to a woman that can talk , or #6 just wouldn't work if you wanted to stay married. I just Googled and found the Gibbs law wiki (hardly watch any TV, no time, so don't watch CSI, has been on my list though, sounds like a cool as hell show). Now that I have read Gibb's laws, I have a much better come back .

 

[mcraft]

Gibbs rule #6: Never apologize. It's a sign of weakness.

Better come back now I know WTH Gibbs law is :

Gibbs law #18: It's better to ask forgiveness than ask permission.

 

[RevDevil]

You guys really need to lighten up.

So when you step in it, you just keep on walking? Never apologize? That'll get you far in life.

 

[mcraft]

Mike, as I mentioned privately, you owe me no apology but I am happy that you have given thought to the situation and come upon a path leading out of the woods.

I'm sure many of us will look forward to your participation as a productive member over the months and years to come. Best of luck to you.

Well stated Blues.

Admitting your wrong and apologizing for it is a true sign of a MAN!!

You guys really need to lighten up.

Nothing wrong with apologizing when you do wrong, I don't know what you did, but alot can be forgiven here on the forum except for THEFT, which i have seen people be forgiven for that on here, but thats a whole other story, As far as what jfever311 said, I believe he was joking...

Thanks to all of you guys, I appreciate your kindness . Regarding BF, I have actually been a lurker here much more than a poster, I have literally read THOUSANDS of posts, mainly because once I got hooked I kept reading about blades that I was interested in and not knowing what the heck most of it meant (FFG vs DP vs. CP , etc., etc.), different locking systems, different manufacturers, etc. The biggest one has been reading a ton about the different blade steels which I am still trying to figure out, all I really know at this point is for the most common steels (say the top 8 or so) when I see a steel stamp is roughly the process of how it was made(CPM vs. not, that is it in what I know in that dept) and in some cases where, and "generally" am getting better at guessing how expensive a steel will make a production blade be on a scale of 1-10 . Oh yeah, and which ones I need to keep oiled so they don't rust (at least I know the the ones I own cos I searched so I knew how to take care of them when stored).

I still have a lot of reading to do... is A2 vs. D2 is better for say a bowie style survival knife or a kukri (like the BEAUTIFUL CRK one pieces that they don't make anymore and so far I haven't been able to afford one of , which are A2 BTW)... is S30/35VN (or the CPM versions) better than CPM-M4 for an EDC, etc. I am not sure if there is a right answer or not either. Then you have all of these relatively rare "super steels" like Elmax, VANAX, ZDP189,etc that I have no clue about (need to read about them, on the list), I could go on and on. I have read the steel charts that tell how much of each element is in each steel, and then read what the properties of each of those elements are and what they add to the blade for some of the common steels until my head hurt, and that was only looking at say 4 steels of the hundreds (thousands?) that I am guessing are out there.

My point is... all of that stuff above and MUCH more I have learned from all of the posters here (along with some follow-up Googling when the posters were going over my head) who have spent there time explaining this stuff, the membership here is incredible, the collective knowledge here is unparalleled IMO. I have learn a TON of great stuff that I probably may not have had it not been for BladeForums, this place ROCKS. And the biggest thing I have learned is that I have barely scratched the surface, I have learned just enough to know I don't know sh*t when it comes to blades. I really had NO CLUE about how much there was to the art of making them, the complexities, etc., and I would bet unless you are in the hobby NO ONE does, I mean, its just a pocket knife, right? I bet 99.99% of the population doesn't even look to see what a blade is made of before they buy it.

I am hoping to someday comprehend and catch up knowledge wise a bit and have some good dialogs, especially in the steel discussion threads, those look like fun, productive conversations if you know what you are talking about. I grew up as a mechanic... first fully rebuilt SB 350 on my own when I was 11 (top and bottom), professional line tech at a Toy dealer at 17(where we worked on everything since we had a used car lot too, was a mechnic on sub reactors in the Navy, and have been working on cars as a side job ever since... one at a time, I buy a car, fix it up when I have the time, sell it; disabled wife, one income family so the extra $ helps, and I enjoy it. So I have been a mechanic for almost 25 years... and have done quite a bit of machining. I love it, it is my soul mate job or whatever. I got sucked into IT for the $ and it was fun figuring out and fixing IT problems, but it isn't the same, I want to get back to fixing/making things that you can touch and admire and that last forever. Software comes and goes, and you can't TOUCH it. Machinery/engineering is my true love, has been since I was about 6 (erector sets baby, those were the bomb).

THAT is why I am so enthusiastic about blades.

I am already taking gunsmithing courses and do some light gunsmithing already along with dealing(again buy broken, fix, sell, maybe I keep a few ), it would be cool if once I retire from IT in 10-15 years that I have learned enough on gunsmithing and from here and applying what I learn here in practice in my spare time (once I can find some more) to do blade work too and make a living at it until I die since SS will probably be gone. I don't know of a better place on the internet than BF that can get me there(will look for classes when the time is right), which was why it was important for myself to apologize for wasting your time and asking for a second chance. There IS no other BladeForums (I have been to the "other one" it doesn't even compare)... I don't want to screw things up for myself here.

So, again, thanks for taking it easy on me! I look forward to a lot more reading, perhaps a few questions, and some interaction in the different forums once I have something to offer... and maybe someday will be a knife maker member with either blades or at least custom scales or something...

 

[whateatsrabbits]

Here are some tips noob.
1.The post above I'm not reading, maybe if it was a review, but not babble.
2. Just edit your post instead of posting 5 times in 10 minutes.
3. search or make a new thread instead of jacking another(aka stay relevant)



P.S. I still think your some kind of troll or scammer.

 

[mcraft]

Yep, I wrote a lot, but you hit a nerve, I am NOT currently delirious, but I am insulted by your last statement. I have responded to everything you have said fairly IMO, and most of your feedback was fine IMO, except that last sentence crossed a line on insulting my integrity. If you cannot be bothered to read my responses to your feedback after coming into my thread and calling me a scammer, then I have no use for you, this forum has a nifty "ignore user" feature and you will be the first person on the internet I have ever used that functionality on, but I have always wondered if it works, and you are free to use on me if you want. If you would have emailed me your feedback, I would have responded in kind, but as you chose to post in my thread, I am also responding in kind.

Here are some tips noob.
1.The post above I'm not reading, maybe if it was a review, but not babble. - No problem, this was posted as a separate thread and is MY thread by direction of a moderator, and you are free to read or not read it, I am not offended either way, but as my thread I feel a bit of allowance to at least introduce myself. Executive summary JUST for you: I have been reading here a lot longer than I have had a membership and am thankful for BF because I have learned a lot from it, mechanical things like this from working on cars to Nuclear reactors in the USN have been an expertise of mine for almost 25 years, and I hope to learn enough here from everyone so that I can maybe someday be a contributor or perhaps even a maker, if not of simple blades, maybe scales or something, I have done plenty of fabrication in my professional "mechanical days". BTW, in trying to figure out your story because of that last post. I read through alot of your posts including one categorizing tool levels of quality, you seem to know a lot of them (sad to hear about Mac, they used to be decent in the 90's, and cheaper than snap-on to boot, but not QUITE as good, especially their thin wrenches and small (1/4") impacts), are you a mechanic? If so, perhaps we have something in common. And from all of your other posts you seem like a cool, and helpful member here. So I just don't get the insult in your last statement posted in the thread, why not try and ferret me out by emailing or PMing me?

2. Just edit your post instead of posting 5 times in 10 minutes. - each of the posts was addressing completely different replies, so I kept them separate for the sake of clarity. Also, unless subscribed to a thread, most don't get emails unless their posts are directly responded to (I think that is how it works with default prefs). You will notice that I combined my reply to five of the posts in the last one because they were all addressing the same topic.

3. search or make a new thread instead of jacking another(aka stay relevant) - Ironic you say that because you hijacked my thread to call me a scammer, which I don't recall every coming up anywhere before. Perhaps u should have started your own thread in this very forum thread saying mcraft is a scammer and say why you think so. Regarding being a troll, guilty as charged in ONE thread, that is definitely a lesson I learned, which is why I started this thread as MY thread, so those who don't care or don't want to read it don't have to, but so that I could at least apologize to those who chose to. Being my thread, I also wanted to introduce myself a bit for those that may actually be interested in other's lives that they are interacting with every day (or at whatever interval) on forums. I enjoy reading about's others lives as well when they join forums, it is nice to get to know the people in your e-community in my opinion, reversing the "anti social" aspect that the internet has introduced into our society in many cases. If you don't totally your prerogative.

I behave no differently on the internet than I do in person, probably because I have been interaction with people on the internet for 18 years or so and back in the beginning we DID know everyone we interacted with because we were dialing in to each other's computers that were under our desks into the MUDD/BBS software to interact, and you didn't just hand out your BBS ph# to just anyone. I am still genuinely interested in people that I talk to on forums so that they are more than just a username, and I don't throw around insults on the internet just as I wouldn't in person without justification. Many do, either because they can hide behind their anonymous persona and be pricks without consequences, or maybe they are pricks in real life too, and in both cases I handle them the same way. That is why my user names are normally my REAL name, in this case Mike Craft (aka mcraft), I don't hide much about myself on the inet because I don't see the point in that, unless I am going to act like someone I am not, or I have a cool nickname . I learned a long time ago not to live in fear (being on a Nuke sub will do that to ya, running drills and wondering if they are really drills or the world is about to explode)... if an internet crazy comes and finds me to break down my door, there will be one less crazy in the world if I happen to be home(or maybe I get smoked, if so then it was my time), if I am not home they will most likely be going to court for B&E when the cops show up because my alarm went off. But so far, for all of the people I have met one the internet, many know where I live and have come over to hang out, I have met up with several people on the forums I frequent or used to frequent(mainly the car forums that have local sections), all in all the explosion of internet forums being people of like interest together has been good stuff!



P.S. I still think your some kind of troll or scammer. - I can understand why you would think I could be a troll in the "throw threads off topic aspect" in the group buy thread. Yes I f'ed up. It has been a long time (10 years?) since I have been a newbie, but I know how to be one so you won't see that behavior anymore. The "some kind of scammer" accusation I don't get, I am not trying to sell anyone anything nor did I ever mention anything having to do with anything that could lead to a scam that I can recall. Up until now your feedback has been fine and you are entitled to your opinion. But I am also entitled to my opinion and reaction. Look me up in the following places regarding my transaction history, I have nothing to hide, and to make it easy on you as you seem to not have the time to read but the time to post and judge, I added URLs so you can just click:

eBay (member since 1997, that was my nickname in college because I was good with making computers do what I wanted, hence the username when I created that account in 1997... hmm 100% feedback as a buyer and seller over 15 years, sounds like a scammer to me!)

Gunbroker (again user mikecraft, 100+, definitely signes of a scammer)

BladeForums Exchange (only one, but 100% feedback on a $350 purchase but ya gotta give me a break here, I just started), talk to snyperad as we ended up having some great conversations, I made a cool acquaintence, definitely a cool dude(an EMT, much respect for him and guys like him, that is a hard job, and a lot of people are still alive thanks to him and people like him)BTW, I know I only have three friends in my profile(all of whom are also cool people I have been chatting with through email), but you have none after 5 years here? Do you not have any friends or do you just not mess with that functionality?

I have other links to posts, but I think my point is made.

So please let me know why you think I am a scammer. If you have no reason other than some gut instinct but nothing to back it up, perhaps you are being a bit hasty with that insult, then please say so. If you do have an actual reason, please explain, perhaps I can clarify something that set off alarm bells in your head. If you wanna chat over the phone, lmk and I will PM you my phone number (unlisted, and I get enough cold calls as it is in my work, sure as hell ain't posting my cell on the internet), and you can call me whenever you want. If you would like to explain in person, more than happy to oblige if you are ever near by on business, my address, 418 NW 43RD TER, Kansas City, MO, 64116 (that's public record, so I don't care about it being on the internet, it already is). Just call first so I can clean up a bit . Or give me yours as I travel on business to NY a bit(which of the Burroughs u in?), perhaps I may be in the neighborhood and we can chat at a pub or something, I got the first round. PM it if you don't want it on the internet. Or use FB if you have an account, here is mine: https://www.facebook.com/michaeldavidcraft

If you are an internet crazy, make sure you read my feedback on GB (which is a lot less than I own, GB isn't the only place to guy firearms ) and read the sign on my front door posted below before deciding on busting down my door with whatever agenda you may have on your mind. I am assuming you are not an internet crazy based on all of your great posts ad typically civil manner... so if you are ever nearby on business or something you are welcome in my home we can just have a nice scotch(or Irish Whisky, my preference ) or a beer, maybe have a cigar if ya want, play a game of pool and chat about blades or cars or whatever, I am always up for meeting new people. I read a bunch of your posts after you posted this, and you seem like a nice guy and your posts are helpful, but then you post in my apology thread (which you could have completely ignored if you like, the beauty of it being its own thread) and tell me you think I am a troll and a scammer? Troll, I was guilty as charged and I vowed to fix it, but being called a scammer I take as an insult to my integrity, and some say ignore the internet insults, but as I said I treat both forms of interaction the same, that's the way I roll. An insult to my integrity without provocation I take very personally, call it testosterone, call it damage to my brain from serving in the military where we depended on each other's integrity for our lives and such accusations were fighting words, call it whatever you want, but that's me. If on the other hand, you are just suspicious because the internet is a big place and there ARE a crap load of scammers in it, I get it, but I would appreciate you either backup you claim, say it to my face, STFU, or try to get to know me a bit more before insulting me light that. We on the same page?

 

[jfever311]

Okay. I'll start with this. On the show, NCIS, Gibbs has been married about a half dozen times. Apparently the never apologizing thing does not work well with the ladies. I've been married myself for only five years, and have probably apologized for more things during this time than the other thirty years combined. Nothing wrong with doing so, especially when it involves a loved one. I would not, however, apologize for what the OP did. He had totally valid points. He has not been on the forums for years like some others, and was feeling uncomfortable with the situation. He simply said as much, just in a sorta long winded way. To each his own. That is all I have to say about that.

 

[jfever311]

Hopefully we can all still be friends.....

 

[coping]

Aknowledging a wrong is an advancement in life. Being Offtopic means f all, people rant on about anything.
You could have a vagina though, humans with vaginas usually blabbah on. Females always need reassurence of acceptance too.

Your listing other people as though you look up to them, this is your real weakness, they are of no reason, to specifically name them suggests you not appolagising to a community too, you are in love.

My 2 cents

 

[Blues]

Folks, this thread was supposed to be an apology...instead it's turned into justifications, finger pointing and invective.

Let's move on...but before we do, a couple of points worth noting...

Not all remarks need to be replied or responded to. It's not always a good idea to rise to the bait.

When someone posts an off-topic or insulting or trollish remark, use the "report button".

And finally, if you feel that you absolutely need to "take it outside" and have a dust-up, keep it off the public forums and conduct your vendettas privately via email, PM, phone call or in person.

Following this simple advice will prolong your membership and participation on this site.