My brother's heading off to the military

If you want to save some cash and still have that durability and strength that the 0560 provides, I'd take a look at the ZT0550.

At 200$ or less its an incredible deal. The s35vn isn't as good as Elmax that the 0560 come with, but it's plenty for most tasks. Definitely a solid blade and the new version is suppose to be pretty damned nice.

I had a 0550; was very impressed but sold it. Finally picked up a NIB 0551 WITH the ELMAX. It is much harder to find, however. The Spyderco Titanium or Carbon Fiber Military would be good. Available in a bunch of good blade-steels. Very strong blade.

The Marines adopted the Strider SMF in 2003. They had a lot of knife names and models to pick from. I know your brother doesn't like Spyderco or Strider, but a winner IS a winner.

Sonny
 
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After basic- large Voyager and some sort of SAK. Nothing before, nothing more expensive ever.
 
After basic- large Voyager and some sort of SAK. Nothing before, nothing more expensive ever.


nothing before, i agree with... but nothing more expensive ever is a bit of a stretch don't you think? most soldiers (well a lot of them at least) have a lot of pride in their knives, and a lot buy some pretty pricey blades to prove it.

As stated above by Jake 5713, and my last post i am curious as to what branch or trade your brother is going into, as that should play a major role in your decesion as to what is the most appropriate gift.
 
What is his MOS going to be??? that has a lot to do with what kind of knife he may or may not need, a good multitool is a soldiers best friend, I carried a cqc-7 but If i had it to do over again I would take a zt 0300 with me without a doubt .
 
I'm not a combat MOS but I've worked with a lot of Joes over the last few years. The average soldier doesn't seem to be any where near a knife snob and carries something with a combo tanto blade from the PX. Less expensive to replace when it breaks or gets lost. Voyagers have a great lock, great handle, are affordable for anyone, and have a perfectly usable steel.
 
Like everyone has said, nothing while he's in Basic training. He'll have to leave it in his footlocker or send it home. If left in his footlocker, it'll be stolen within 24 hours.
If he gets to the Sandbox, I think the Strider SMF would be great IF he's in a combat arena. If he's a clerk, no.
Sonnydaze
 
I'm not a combat MOS but I've worked with a lot of Joes over the last few years. The average soldier doesn't seem to be any where near a knife snob and carries something with a combo tanto blade from the PX. Less expensive to replace when it breaks or gets lost. Voyagers have a great lock, great handle, are affordable for anyone, and have a perfectly usable steel.

nobody said snob... but most "joes" do play with their knives and show their friends when they are bored, and there is always a comment about why this or how it does that. it's part of the deal, when you are out in the sticks for months on end. I know if i were buying a knife for a soldier to use, i wouldn't settle for something half assed when i knew there was better out there for the money. of course he will buy and use cheap ones from the PX or wherever and beat the piss out of them, but that's up to him. all that being said, It's likely a quality piece given to him from someone he cares about will stay with him for long after he is out of the military and telling stories of where it has accompanied him.
 
Be very careful of what you send him even out of boot camp. Many units have regulations that vary depending on the whim of the commanding officer. Some units can carry moderate fixed blades, while others have a CO that will noix anything but a small folder. If stationed state side, base regulations can be as stiff as any city.
 
If it oozes quality, it'll ooze it's way into someone else's pocket.

Get a knife that's good quality, but cheap enough to buy two - that way if the first gets stolen, it's just shipping to give him another.
 
As others have said, nothing to bootcamp.
How about a Leatherman Wave as a boot camp graduation gift ?
Have his name,military branch and grad date engraved on it.
like this: BILL W. JONES USMC 4-2-13
 
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Wow lots of replies. Sorry, I forgot about this thread for a little, and came back to lots of advice. Thanks a lot, people.
I think the 560 is still a good idea, and I plan on buying him a leatherman for christmas anyway, so that's taken care of.
Thanks for letting me know about basic training. He's likely going into infantry, so is a folder a bad idea? Would a nice fixed blade be more practical?
 
Boscov,tell your brother thanks for going into the service,I'm a retired E-9 with 31 yrs service,you have got a lot of good advise,nothing for basic training,a good folder if stationed stateside,if he go's into a combat zone,then possibly a good fixed blade.
 
Wow lots of replies. Sorry, I forgot about this thread for a little, and came back to lots of advice. Thanks a lot, people.
I think the 560 is still a good idea, and I plan on buying him a leatherman for christmas anyway, so that's taken care of.
Thanks for letting me know about basic training. He's likely going into infantry, so is a folder a bad idea? Would a nice fixed blade be more practical?

yes... if he's going infantry, a good fixed blade would make more sense than any folder. there's a reason the marines issued Ka-bars, and the Green berets issue the Yarborough... a good fixed blade is a soldiers most practical tool.
 
The Strider NSN marked smf's are only made for the marines. The Strider SMF was the first knife issued to an individual Marine Corps unit in over 60 years and the first tactical folder issued within the USMC.
In 2003, when DET-1 was formed and their equipment being chosen, they decided not to use the traditional Marine Ka-Bar nor did they go with a dagger design as the Marine Raiders had been issued 60 years previously. Instead they chose Strider's SMF folding knife as their issued blade.
Sonnydaze
 
Like everyone has said, nothing while he's in Basic training. He'll have to leave it in his footlocker or send it home. If left in his footlocker, it'll be stolen within 24 hours.
If he gets to the Sandbox, I think the Strider SMF would be great IF he's in a combat arena. If he's a clerk, no.
Sonnydaze

You get off the bus, everything stops. No posessions, no decisions, no anything; every second of the next 12 weeks is scripted and written down on a training schedule, right down to your every bowel movement. Everything you have in your possession gets taken away before you ever get to your baracks and you never see it again until you leave. Nothing [of yours] goes in your footlocker and you have no decretion about anything. As a matter of fact they will even tell you where everything they give you goes in your footlocker.

As for the stolen part, I couldn't imagine a world where someone would steal something out of a locked USMC footlocker, in bootcamp!

Generally speaking, taking a knife [or anything] to Boot Camp would be a monumantal mistake and would likely brand him a problem child from day one. And brands like that don't go away in the relatively small Marine Corps. Second, his next stop after Boot Camp (and a short trip home) will be his schools. Infantry training school and then primary school, I wouldn't imagine either place would be knife friendly.

Once he gets to his first unit he will see what others who are more experienced are carrying and will probably want that. That environment takes the knife snob out of you quick, at your unit a knife or any other tool either works in your particular job or it doesn't. Lots and lots of snobby knives never leave the barracks and the tried and true old workhorses go to the field. When I was in, the sight of a clip sticking out of the corner of your pocket would usually get fixed by the First Sergeant. He would come up to you rip the knife out of your pocket, usually ripping your pants in the process, and then break your folder throw it on the ground and then tell you to pick up every piece. While you were on your knees with a ripped uniform picking up small pieces of "whatever" you would get a lecture about the USMC uniform and how NOTHING gets put on it, not a string and not some stupid clip holding a knife. Fanaticism is the bare bones norm in the Marines but, they take that to a special kind of sick extreme in Boot Camp.
 
take all of this advice with a grain of salt chief... there is a lot of "hype" and "i imagine this, or that" going on on this thread. the reality of the situation is he will most likely be allowed to carry a decent knife of his choice with him on his rig once he is in, and since you probably know better than he does what knife is "better" then it's up to you to help him decide. there is a lot of options out there and there are a lot of solid knives you can pick (and he can wear) maybe not on his person day to day, but for sure when he's out doing the buisness. pick him up something of quality and he will most likely cherish it for a long time and tell brag to his buddies how his brother gave him this sweet piece of steel.
 
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