MY C58 JD Smith confiscated!!

[Les]

That jerk probably liked your knife and figured he'd use his power to go ahead and take it for himself. I bet you there is not record of that knife being turned in or inventoried. I bet it's in his pocket right now.

I'll take your bet.
Most LEO/Security/.gov employees are not so stupid to jeopardize a career over an item of little value.
Some might be, but not the majority.
And those who are, do so knowing even stiffer penalties await if caught and convicted.


An item carried illegally into a Federal building becomes contraband. Contraband can be seized and destroyed, used as evidence or used later as the .gov sees fit (think training or inventory) and those carrying contraband can be prosecuted and penalized if found guilty.

 

[KeithAM]

I've worked in a federal building for more than 20 years. The law is not that a knife with a blade less than 2.5" is allowed in the building. Building security is free to ban all knives. The fact that a knife has a blade less than 2.5" simply means you won't be charged with a felony for bringing it into the building. 18 U.S.C. Sec. 930.

In past discussions of this statute, I've seen others incorrectly state that it gives people a right to bring a knife with a blade less than 2.5" into the building. That simply isn't true. All the 2.5" rule means is that your knife would not be considered a "dangerous weapon" for purposes of prosecution under that statute. Nothing more.

 

[SIFU1A]

dont get me wrong JD i think it sux ya lost the knife, but state laws mean little or nothing in a federal building, they were in the right technically, i have a concealed weapon permit in TX but i wouldnt even think about taking a pistol(or a knife) into a federal courthouse, on federal propert federal laws apply.

i like your designs by the way.

 

[jdsmith02115]

dont get me wrong JD i think it sux ya lost the knife, but state laws mean little or nothing in a federal building, they were in the right technically, i have a concealed weapon permit in TX but i wouldnt even think about taking a pistol(or a knife) into a federal courthouse, on federal propert federal laws apply.

i like your designs by the way.

Thanks for the compliment. I must say again that I kissed that knife goodbye the moment I left the building. I entered the building quite absent mindedly of my carry status. I was not trying to enter with the knife. I merely wanted to check it at the front security station...knife gone now...learned lesson...have new one...day over...move on.

 

[Darrell3644]

It must suck to live up north. I've carried a knife into a courthouse a couple of times here in GA. They just told me to take it over to someone that would hold it for me until I got out. No big deal here and it was a four inch knife.

 

[hardheart]

I'll take your bet.
Most LEO/Security/.gov employees are not so stupid to jeopardize a career over an item of little value.
Some might be, but not the majority.
And those who are, do so knowing even stiffer penalties await if caught and convicted.


An item carried illegally into a Federal building becomes contraband. Contraband can be seized and destroyed, used as evidence or used later as the .gov sees fit (think training or inventory) and those carrying contraband can be prosecuted and penalized if found guilty.

Skipped some of the middle... did JD get any paperwork? If not, then I sure wouldn't take that bet.

 

[stitch_paradox]

I know here in SD, it's illegal to bring any knife inside a Federal building. I went to MEPS (military processing center) 3 months ago and recruiters warn you not to bring any knife or any kind of weapon inside no matter how small. And if your stubborn and insist on bringing knives inside that will automatically disqualify you for military processing. I've seen it happen.

 

[CUTS LIKE A KRIS]

The law is not vague. It is your inability to read and interpret the law that is causing you to state that it is.

The pertinent sections have already been posted, but perhaps you need to see them again!

"16-45 PROHIBITING THE CARRYING OF KNIVES OR
SIMILAR WEAPONS

16-45.2 Distribution Exception. This section shall not apply to persons who, through entities or
establishments engaged in a recognized retail or wholesale business, are involved in the sale, purchase
or repair of knives for trade, sport, hobby or recreation, including without limitation persons engaged in
the transportation to or form such entities or establishments"

Did J.D. Smith, the OP and knifemaker in question, post that he was selling, repairing, or transporting for the purpose of sale his EDC Spyderco signature model?

Regards,
3G

My shop is in my house(place of business). So, does that mean that mean If I'm any where between some location and my home that exclusionary clause applies? I would think it would apply as it's written. Opinions please.

I bolded, italicised, and underlined what I feel is important. As I see it it states that it does not apply "to persons who" "are involved in" the sale.... It does not state that such a person has to be actively participating in the action, only that they are a person who is involved in the activity. It would be hard to argue that a knife designer of a major companies model would not be involved in the sale of said item.

As I said it is how I read it, the lack of specification that the person has to be directly or actively selling is a major point that the OP does meet the exemption for.

 

[enderwiggin]

I know here in SD, it's illegal to bring any knife inside a Federal building. I went to MEPS (military processing center) 3 months ago and recruiters warn you not to bring any knife or any kind of weapon inside no matter how small. And if your stubborn and insist on bringing knives inside that will automatically disqualify you for military processing. I've seen it happen.

That's not just SD. That's the law everywhere.

You can't bring knives into federal buildings. Period.

 

[mdauben]

That's not just SD. That's the law everywhere.

You can't bring knives into federal buildings. Period.

No, the law is that you can't bring a knive longer than 2.5 inches into a federal building. Some places do have stricter rules, but they are not the law.

 

[JB in SC]

Mike, the statute does allow knives with blades no greater than 2.5". However, most Federal Buildings don't allow any knives, regardless of size. I do know of one instance where a knife was taken upon dropping it in the tray, but was returned upon exit from the building. It was a small SAK.

 

[mdauben]

However, most Federal Buildings don't allow any knives, regardless of size.

Well, I don't know if its most of not, I do know that the federal building that I work in follows the 2.5 inch law.

I do know of one instance where a knife was taken upon dropping it in the tray, but was returned upon exit from the building. It was a small SAK.

I'm no lawyer, but I think they would have to. They can get away with confiscating a knife if possetion of it breaks the law, but if it just breaks their rules then I think confiscating it outright would be little more than simple theft.

 

[enderwiggin]

 

[harkamus]

It must suck to live up north. I've carried a knife into a courthouse a couple of times here in GA. They just told me to take it over to someone that would hold it for me until I got out. No big deal here and it was a four inch knife.

4 inch blade? I'm in GA. Correct me if I'm wrong, but no county in the state of GA allows for a blade length of 4 inches.