My dark (DARK!) brown (black?) jigged bone #13 Speaker Jack

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When the #13's were first announced, and this preview drawing posted on GEC's website, the variant I was most interested in was the Speaker Jack. In part, it was because I think the sheepsfoot looks better on this pattern than the wharncliffe (and at that time, there was no talk of the Whittler), but it was also because I thought the dark, chocolatey brown jigged bone they gave the Speaker Jack in the preview drawing looked very nice!

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Of course, GEC ended up going with Rust Red jigged bone instead. Now don't get me wrong, I like GEC's Rust Red jigged bone. I have a few other GEC knives in Rust Red, and I like them just fine, but it just wasn't what I was hoping for on the Speaker Jack. When I got mine in, I was very happy with the knife, but couldn't help the fact that I was still a bit disappointed in the color of the bone.

So I decided to do something about it. I went to the store, bought some Dark Brown RIT dye, and went to work. I followed jamesbeats process as summarized by meako in this thread.

Anyways, without any further ado, let's get to the pictures.

Before:

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After:

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As you can see, it turned out pretty dark. I sort of expected that to be the case. I went back and forth between the Dark Brown dye and the Chocolate Brown, but because the red was already pretty dark to begin with, I don't think it would've made much of a difference. In person, along the edges and towards the bolsters, it is a rich, dark brown (looks quite nice, really), but that just doesn't show up very well in the photos.

The dye job does do a bit of a number on the bolsters, springs and blades. When I took the knife out of the dye, most of the metal that had been submerged had taken on a splotchy, bronze-ish tint, and there were dark spots on the springs and parts of the blades. (Thankfully, I did not submerge the blades with the knife, but left them half open and sticking out of the dye/water. This didn't keep them from getting some spots, but I think it would've been worse had I submerged the whole knife closed.)

The bronze tint on the bolsters, shield, backsprings and tangs took some polishing to get rid of (I just used a rag with some green compound on it), but having done that, they look just as good as new. The darker spots on the springs and blades didn't come off, but hey, it's just gives the knife more character. :rolleyes:

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It would have been great if GEC had offered the Speaker Jack in the same deep chestnut color they used for the American Whittler SFO, but I think this is the next best thing. :D

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Nice work Barrett, looks good :thumbup:
 
That sure looks good Barrett - dark knives have a classic look that fits on a GEC product. I do like my vivid red Speaker Jack though.........OH
 
Very nice. Like you I was into the speaker jack mostly because of the bone in the preview drawing.
 
Thanks, guys! OH, I often wish that GEC would do more dark colored bone on their knives.
 
Thanks, guys! OH, I often wish that GEC would do more dark colored bone on their knives.

Me too! I have two ebony speakers. But I would rather have a chestnut bone. Yours came out nice! Good job!
 
The spots on the blades and springs should work out with some elbow grease and if needed, some emery cloth or scotchbrite pad work. Either that or let the patina continue and watch it evolve...I love a nice patina. The dye job came out great tho!

Matt
 
The spots on the blades and springs should work out with some elbow grease and if needed, some emery cloth or scotchbrite pad work. Either that or let the patina continue and watch it evolve...I love a nice patina. The dye job came out great tho!

Matt

Thanks, Matt. I'll probably just leave the spots and let it patina more. I gave 'em a pretty good go already (had to in order to get the discoloration off the bolsters). I'm sure there's something more effective than green compound on a cloth, but it was all I had handy. :rolleyes:

I should've taken an after-dyeing-before-polishing photo. It looked pretty scary when it first came out of the pot. :eek:
 
Barrett,
If You want to remove the spots on the blades, backspring and perhaps in between the liners
try 4000 grit micron (pink) polishing paper. When using it be careful not to polish through
the NICE LOOKING dye job.
 
Looks good!

If you look up my threads on RIT dyeing, you'll see I have had a similar issue with one knife, which I put down to the dye not fully dissolving in the water before the knife was added. I've been more careful to boil and stir since then, and haven't had the issue return.



these spots are small craters and won't come off with metal polish
 
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Thanks, Matt. I'll probably just leave the spots and let it patina more. I gave 'em a pretty good go already (had to in order to get the discoloration off the bolsters). I'm sure there's something more effective than green compound on a cloth, but it was all I had handy. :rolleyes:

I should've taken an after-dyeing-before-polishing photo. It looked pretty scary when it first came out of the pot. :eek:

I hear ya! I dyed my recently purchased Case Trapper...a couple times actually and the bolsters came out yellow each time. Some 1200 grit, polishing compound and some steel wool and they look better than when I got it. Did the same to the back springs and then used steel wool and a green scotchbrite pad on the blades. These are stainless tho, if it were one of my carbon blades it would have a patina from use anyways so Ide likely just get the darker splotching down a bit and then let it even out over time!

Matt
 
RIT dye stovetop method causes pitting in carbon steel. I have had no problems from it with Case stainless steel knives, but I won't do it (again) with carbon steel.

Anything discolored by the dye process (bolsters, liners, stainless blades and backsprings) can be buffed back to normal color and shine with some metal polish, but the pits are there to stay.
 
Nice color, that is a huge improvement over the red!! I think the spots just add character:)
 
I'm sorry to say that being colorblind, I can't see any difference between before and after.:rolleyes: But it's a beautiful knife in anycase, unfortunate about the pitting. Character galore though! Kudos sir.
Thanks, Neal
 
Nice alteration, but it does take some nerve on carbon steel (I've done a tea-bath on Stag carbon knives.....:eek:) :D

The results kind of remind me of Winchester Black Box Knives....:thumbup:

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Regards, Will
 
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