my first experience with s125v (Big Chris)

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I received a beautiful knife from Big Chris a couple weeks ago, and wanted to share some of my initial thoughts. Two disclaimers: One – this review is far from scientific and reproducible. This is not the intent, and for that I leave it to the masters like Ankerson. Two – I have some experience with high carbide alloys, including a k390 spyderco mule, a bunch of s110v and s90v, as well as a Phil Wilson bow river in k294. I am looking to add some other A11 soon, all for the sake of testing, right? That said, I am far from experienced (and even farther from expert). Take everything I say with a grain of salt.

So – some pics to start us off
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This is a scrapper pattern, about 5.25 inch blade. 0.156” thick, heat treated to about 63.5 Rc. Fit and finish are extremely well done, and balance is just about perfect. These partial tang blades are really growing on me. I give up the dream of batonning through a redwood forest with an edc/hiking knife, but gain great slicing with excellent balance and feel.
For those unfamiliar with s125v, it has a (well-deserved) reputation for being a difficult steel to work with. In the annealed state, it is extremely brittle and so it is clad in 304 stainless. Evidently the sheets are wavy and uneven as well since it is difficult to roll. What I have heard is that an A11 knife takes about three times more time and belts to grind that an s35vn/cpm154/XHP knife. And s125v takes another two to three times more time and belts than an A11. In the same time and material costs (belts), a maker can grind almost nine blades in very respectable steel, or one blade in s125v. Again, this is all hearsay, but it makes sense since very few knifemakers are willing to use s125v.

With that said… C’mon guys. Make more!!!:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
I really love this stuff.

To describe it, I would say the knife is a bit bipolar. When cutting on cardboard, it is smooth and glides right through. When cutting on rope, it is a bit more aggressive than s90v and bites really well. Smooth and toothy? Disclaimer three – sorry if you are bipolar. I am not saying you are either smooth or toothy.

I only bought a couple feet of 5/8 inch manila rope, but cutting was very easy. Geometry helps, and Big Chris did a great job on the grind despite starting with relatively thick stock. Due to the scarcity of s125v, I believe this was the only thickness available. Frankly, I rarely cut rope. I also don’t hunt, so my knives don’t usually need to cut through hide and grit.

I do shop on Amazon a lot (or rather, my wife does). And I get to cut lots and lots of boxes. I had a bunch of shipping/display cartons from Costco that are thicker than the usual brown corrugated cardboard. The s125v really sailed through them. I was cutting slices with very little effort. I know that Jim Ankerson will routinely slice through a mile of cardboard while testing some A11. I definitely do not have his stamina or wrist strength. My back of the napkin calculation was about a quarter mile though (9 inch cuts x 1500 cuts = 13500 inches or 1125 feet). Okay, maybe a fifth of a mile…

Through it, the edge held up beautifully. No appreciable wear, and smooth cuts through paper along the entire blade afterwards. One thing I did notice – after cutting hard and fast for a few minutes, the blade was pretty hot. Not hot enough to affect temper or burn skin – but slightly uncomfortable to hold onto for more than a few seconds. The spine of the blade by the handle was still cool to the touch. I assume this was the friction of the cardboard on the blade? I have never noticed this before, so I interpret it as an indication of how quickly it has to slice through cardboard to generate some heat. Or that it was pushing 100 degrees today .
I am about done with my yammering. I will say that Big Chris does a great job with his grinds and his finish, and I will be looking to try many more. And his heat treat seems spot on! I am not sure of how to push this knife to the limits without pushing myself beyond the limits first. Will this out-cut k390 or 10v? Probably, but I will frankly never know. But the feel of it – just awesome. Smooth as butter. Toothy butter. I will see how long it lasts before needing to be touched up and/or sharpened.

You gotta get you some of this. It’s that good!

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Really been lusting after some of Big Chris's S125V offerings. Damn you for this great write up! :p
 
Big Chris really knows his stuff. I've got a pocket fighter in M4 half tang and it's a wicked slicer. Thinnest knife I have behind the edge.

Is that ivory micarta? Looks fantastic.
 
Big Chris is not afraid to offer the latest and the best blade-steels...very nice.
 
Big Chris really knows his stuff. I've got a pocket fighter in M4 half tang and it's a wicked slicer. Thinnest knife I have behind the edge.

Is that ivory micarta? Looks fantastic.

Yup - top of his game for sure!
and yes - ivory micarta. Not that it needed more class.
 
I have no s125v from Mr. Berry, or anyone for that matter, but I do have four of his knives in three different steels and found their fit, performance and comfort while using to be top notch.

Hopefully I'll get an opportunity to try some s125v a la Big Chris someday.
 
Very nice review. :thumbup:

Chris makes a very nice knife and is one of the few who will work with the high carbide steels and knows what they are doing.

Taking on S125V is a gamble due to the difficulties working with it and the special handling it requires.
 
I have to say that knife is nice, and I'm really not into fixies. It just looks like just a knife, nothing fancy and no silly coatings. If I decide to get something in a super steel, I'm definetly looking up Big Chris.
 
I've talked with Chris several times and his interest is to always make his knives perform equally or better than anything else out there. Taking on s125v takes big........character. [emoji2]
I've spoken with Foofie over the phone several times as well and he is being modest with his experience and knowledge. We all wish we knew more and the more we learn the more we feel we don't know but it does not detract from the wealth of knowledge we have at our command. For a non-knife maker Foofie has a lot of knowledge about good geometry, steels, and what it takes to make a great knife from hours of research. So don't take his statements with a grain of salt.... He's just being modest. When he says Big Chris makes a great knife, he knows what he is talking about.


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Chris makes a very nice knife and is one of the few who will work with the high carbide steels and knows what they are doing.

Taking on S125V is a gamble due to the difficulties working with it and the special handling it requires.

This makes great sense. I read a story about how Phil Wilson surreptitiously started making partial tang knives after a blade cracked on him. The stakes would be all the higher with expensive steel and all the time and heart invested.
 
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For a non-knife maker Foofie has a lot of knowledge about good geometry, steels, and what it takes to make a great knife from hours of research. So don't take his statements with a grain of salt.... He's just being modest. When he says Big Chris makes a great knife, he knows what he is talking about.
Aww, thanks man! Almost made me blush.
Alright. Back to our regularly scheduled program.

Big Chris is awesome.
s125v is awesome.

Somebody sent me a link to a Fantoni production folder made in s125v. Thanks tiguy, you enabler you. Will have to look into that. Anyone have any experience with the Fantoni?
 
Fantoni's are very nice. The HB-03 came out around March 2015 and I tried to get one but only 100 were made. Everybody wanted this limited Harsey Model. They $750 from the original maker and now command much more than that. Unless it was abused look at spending 1K+. That's if it comes up for sale at all.
(Edit: I was sent a link showing a nice Fantoni HB-03 in good condition (not a beater at all) selling for $475. The last I looked in Dec. 2015 I saw a couple ranging from 1000-1200 but I guess that is dated info now seeing one for $475. I stand corrected. Sorry for the misinformation.)


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This makes great sense. I read a story about how Phil Wilson surreptitiously started making partial tang knives after a blade cracked on him. The stakes would be all the higher with expensive steel and all the time and heart invested.

I have one of the 5 blades he made in S125V.....

Something about he would rather hit his thumb with a hammer before working with it. LOL :D
 
I have one of the 5 blades he made in S125V.....

Something about he would rather hit his thumb with a hammer before working with it. LOL :D

Any way I can block Big Chris and other knifemakers from reading this last post? :D
 
foofie,
Great review. You comedy as well placed and well received.
Your experiences pretty much mirrored my own in the way that it cuts.
The way and aggressiveness with which S125V cuts is quite impressive and not like any other steel I have used.
Thanks a lot for the generous write up.

Chris
 
Thanks for a great knife, Chris.
In all seriousness - please make more:D


Can't even ask nicely without the silly little faces:)
 
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