My first pattern-welded fixed blade!

It's a pretty one, Phillip. Very nice steel. Congrats on your success!:thumbup:

I might suggest you keep it. Some idiots trade one their first two damascus knives from their first billet on things like guns. Long after the gun is gone, the bitter recrimination of not having the knife remains... :( :o


Hmm, sounds like the voice of experience. :)
I think I will keep it. My mom will kill me if I don't, and that would only add to the recriminations. :D
 
Here goes Dr. D style'in again, PP just opened the invitation door wide open for you Doc?

I hope you post the results? :thumbup:
 
Here goes Dr. D style'in again, PP just opened the invitation door wide open for you Doc?

I hope you post the results? :thumbup:

Definitely. :D
I just did a weld on another billet today, and ran out of propane. This billet is O1 and L6. I think it's going to turn out well. :thumbup: Two more welds to go.
 
Welllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll.......go get more propane!!!!!!!! I can't wait to see more of your work. The first effort was incredible!
 
For sure what to see those results. 01 and L6 together, if use man that would be a strong blade I would think.
 
O1 and L6 is the combo Kevin Cashen (and others) uses. I'm sure it makes a good blade.
I got my propane tank refilled last night, and I'll probably get this billet finished today. :thumbup:
 
Phillip, was the approximate starting thickness of the layers 1/4"? About what radius is on your hammer dies? Could you give details on your etching and finishing methods? I ask all of this because that steel is so attractive I may need to emulate it.:thumbup:

That was your first? Did I also mention that I hate you!;)
 
Phillip, was the approximate starting thickness of the layers 1/4"? About what radius is on your hammer dies? Could you give details on your etching and finishing methods? I ask all of this because that steel is so attractive I may need to emulate it.:thumbup:

That was your first? Did I also mention that I hate you!;)

Hi Kevin,
I'm flattered. It's not every day someone tells me they hate me. :D
I've learned so much from you, I'd be glad to give a little back. Keep in mind though, I didn't know what the pattern was going to look like. I didn't do any pattern manipulation because I'm lazy, and the piece I was working with was too small, and I was afraid there wouldn't be enough steel to do any groove cutting or anything, and have enough left for a knife.
Let me say again, this is just my first completed PW blade. I failed many times before this. But no more! (I wish...)
Anyway, the details: I started with 1/4" 1080, and 3/16" 8670 (all from Admiral steel). My notes say I started with 12 layers, but that doesn't sound right. Hmmm. Could be. Let's say six layers of each. I welded it, (I don't think I need to tell you how to do that. ;)) drew it out to about a foot long, let it cool, and cut it into thirds. I like the effect that thicker layers with thinner layers gives, so I put 2 pieces of 1095 in between the 3 pieces of laminate and rewelded. Then drew out, cut in thirds, rewelded, once more. Then the last weld, I cut it in fourths to reweld. My notes say it ended up at 375 layers. Again, I'm not sure I trust my notes. Does that look like 375 layers to you?

My dies have a 6" radius. I used the drawing dies to weld, because, again, I'm lazy, and the dies are a real hassle to change. :) The dies leave bumps all over the steel, which I ground off between each weld, thus resulting in sort of a ladder pattern.

I forged in the tang and distal taper, and ground it the rest of the way. If you forged in the edge bevel, of course, you'd end up with a totally different pattern. The pattern on the blade would look more like the ricasso. Which is still pretty, but not the same.

I hardened and tempered the whole thing to I think 59-ish. Hand sanded to 600 grit. Etched and neutralized several times, sanding with 1000 grit paper in between etches, then after the last couple etches, I polished with worn out 1500 grit paper.

If you try this, please post photos. :)
 
Does anybody just make this stuff for the steel quality and not etch it for the flow of the grain. What would it look like? I know what old shotgun barrels look like but everybody is carried away with appearance not the benefit of laminating the steel. Is it that steel can be just as good without all the trouble and the maker wants the effect and doesn't care too much about the using quality?
Fallkniven laminates it's steel. Not Damascus but the same idea.
Just conjecture.
Beautiful grain!
 
I personally wouldn't use a damascus that wasn't a good quality knife steel. If you want a lot of contrast, and want to go for looks you could use 1095 and nickel sheet. But I personal don't like having layers of nickel between the 1095. It looks stunning, but 0-1 and L6 or 1084 and 15N20 make much better using blades. IMHO
 
Thanks Scott good information to know! I like a blade that stays sharp during usage and hard work.

I have had knives in the past that I spend as much time sharpening them as using them, that's not fun and a waste of time.
 
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