My pack is light again!

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I have become a lightweight backpacker-again.
Back in the early 70’s, my average pack weight was about 40lbs. We didn’t have many luxury items back then though. Heck, Sony Walkmans didn’t even exist yet!

Then, manufactures started ADDING weight to tents, packs, everything!
It seemed like a good idea at the time: an 8lb ‘expedition’ pack with four zippers to open up the thing in the middle, instead of just opening up the top and digging a little? Brilliant! Give me more! Super heavy nylon fabric? Double it please! Never know when your gonna ‘blow out’ a side panel!

They kept adding more and more mostly useless stuff to the gear. And it got heavier….

As time passed, I found myself carrying more and more stuff. By the early 90’s, 60-65lbs was common. Eventually it started taking its toll.
I’m getting to old to haul the 65lb. packs around.
I wasn’t willing to go ‘ultralight’ and be miserable either. I like my comforts. I also like my safety.

Designers are finally remembering their roots and making things weigh LESS , instead of adding a bunch of bells and whistles to everything and making them weigh more.

I bought two different digital scales, one weighs up to 12lbs, in .25oz increments, for bigger items, and the other one weighs objects down to 100th of an ounce, for the smaller items.

The last two years I went on a vicious weight cutting binge with my equipment. I weighed every single piece of equipment I had. If there was something lighter than what I had, I bought it. I replaced my 3lb bag with a 1lb 12oz one. I went from a 6.5oz pack raincover to a 3oz one, and so on. Absolutely nothing was overlooked. It took a lot of research. I learned you cannot trust what the manufactures claimed weights are! Fortunately, several vendors post the ‘true’ weight of items alongside the ‘marketing’ weight.
The saved ounces added up. My wallet got lighter.

I managed to save almost 15lbs! {I saved 8.34oz on stuffsacks alone}

I still carry a lot of ‘luxury’ items: i-pod, camera, binoculars, campstool, siltarp shelter for rainy day cooking, insulated coffee mug, a .44 Magnum, {S&W ultralight}, aqua socks for bootless campwear, and many other creature comfort items. The only thing I don’t carry anymore is a small packraft. I still live in comfort compared to the other people I see on the trail.

Absolutely nothing I have is ‘Stupid Light’.

I still carry a very comprehensive 1st aid kit. {But it weighs 20oz less now}.
I am just as ‘safe’ with this new gear as I was with my older heavier gear. I didn’t cut back if it meant that the new item was far more fragile or was disposable. I have a real tent, I’m not using a tarp to sleep under. {The mosquitoes, bears, wolves, and anything else big enough to view me as a ‘sandwich’, can’t see me while I’m asleep}. My new raingear isn’t disposable .0001mil. plastic junk, but it is much lighter than my old stuff.

I still have everything I used to carry, but it has been re-purchased in a newer, lighter form. If I couldn’t buy something lighter, I modified, cut off, or made smaller, anything I could. This was free, it didn’t cost me anything. It took some thought and creativity though. For example, I now use my hiking poles for my raintarp supports instead of carrying dedicated poles for that purpose. That saved me almost a pound. I lost a couple inches of headroom, but not enough to bother me.

Some items were relatively cheap to upgrade. Sleeping bags, tents and packs of course, cut the most weight for the money. All the other stuff subtracts less weight per dollar, but it adds up.

I figured out that it costs around $10 per ounce {!!!} of total weight saved. {The big three- tent/ bag/ pack, saved pounds, not just ounces so they cost less per ounce. In fact, I saved 7lbs 3oz replacing these three items}. Some things I didn’t spend money on to save weight. . I couldn’t see spending $200 bucks to save 1-2oz. for a lighter campstove. The one I had was already very light. I won’t spend $100 to save 2oz!

Because of the new lighter materials, I have gotten my pack back down to 33lbs. {Dry weight, no food or water}.

I spent around $1500 to get my pack down to a nice light weight, without giving up on anything.

I actually enjoy hiking again. It doesn’t hurt after the first mile anymore. My hips and shoulders aren’t screaming at me all the time.
It was worth it.
 
Geez, 60lbs sounds like a day hike pack to me, and I don't even carry stools or a tent.. the last hike I went on my pack was nigh on 100lbs. 33 sounds like a dream. Good work!
 
That's awesome, sounds like you've found the perfect middle ground. Congrats on getting your setup figured out, that's always a constant project for me (by my own choice!)

I definitely lack the funds to shave weight on the 'big ones'! I'm always trying to instead just shave gear that I can ditch altogether or things that are multi-use.

A lighter tent (or just some silnylon) and a teeny, lightweight sleeping bag would really be great, the rest can be very easily trimmed...

Gear pics, as always, would be great!
 
Morkaleb what did you have in there to end up 100lb??????????????? Did you carry the spare tire for your truck or something?????????
 
Good for you, bearcut.

I also try to minimize unnecessary pack weight. I am a weakling, and further, I have to carry a lot of heavy camera gear, in addition to everything else I carry. So I need to save as much as I can where I can.

I don't go for "stupid-light" either, but I have found a number of ways to keep gear weight down.

One big one is using a bivy instead of a tent, in most seasons and areas. That saves a lot of weight, while also being more waterproof and more durable.

Another big one is ditching a lot of unnecessary clothes. I still keep enough insulating clothes to be safe, but don't bother with much else. Underwear never did anything but chafe me during long hikes anyway, so I no longer carry any. In most cases, no socks, either. No changes of shirts and pants... just what I'm wearing.

For a stove, I use a pop can stove in mild conditions. The rest of the cookset has been reduced to a titanium pot and spoon.

Lots of areas of small weight savings add up, too: Spectra cord instead of nylon; an LED light instead of incandescent; only using stuff sacks for the items that need to be kept waterproof; cutting off all the unnecessary extra length from all the pack straps; water bladder instead of water bottle; etc.

I've been able to keep my pack down below 40 pounds, most of the time, and that is including food and usually 15-20 pounds of photo gear.
 
That's awesome, sounds like you've found the perfect middle ground. Congrats on getting your setup figured out, that's always a constant project for me (by my own choice!)

I definitely lack the funds to shave weight on the 'big ones'! I'm always trying to instead just shave gear that I can ditch altogether or things that are multi-use.

A lighter tent (or just some silnylon) and a teeny, lightweight sleeping bag would really be great, the rest can be very easily trimmed...

Gear pics, as always, would be great!

The "Big three", tent/ bag/ pack, are actually the cheapest way to cut the most weight. Like I said in the thread, I saved 7lbs 3oz with these three items. I got the bag on sale, which saved money. I sold my heavier gear for a couple hundred bucks. I probably spent around $750 for the bag/tent/pack.

Like someone else mentioned, cutting back on extra clothing helps too. I still carry one extra pair of socks, should I soak my feet in a creek or something. I used to carry two or three pair, 'just in case'.

I cut way back on extra clothing. This was free and saved a pound or two. I never used a lot of the extra stuff anyway.

I got some tiny little bottles for cooking oil/dishsoap/ salt-pepper, that kind of stuff. I carry just enough to cover the trip I'm on, instead of carrying enough to cover the whole season of backpacking. That saved some weight.

Just cutting back on extra stuff can pair down the weight and costs little or nothing.

Any ideas from you guys?
 
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