My "Razor Edged" Hinderer XM-18 Wharncliff 20CV Folder

Gizler00

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Hey all...

After watching my good buddy (JR88FAN) pick up an XM-18 in 20CV, and then have some custom work done by Josh at REK. I knew I had to jump on the band wagon and give it a try.

Much like JR88FAN, I gawked at the thought of letting anyone near my blades with a grinder. There was no way that I could justify getting a perfect blade reground to be better.... Well after seeing the results in this thread: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...rer-XM-18-Wharncliff-20CV-Regrind-by-Josh-REK , I was completely blown away and just had to havve one.

A few years ago, I would have also told you that a Wharncliff style balde was for the birds. I just could simply not get past the look of the blade. After having owned a custom with a wharncliff blade, and using it quite a bit at work and around the house, I realized how great the design actually is.

I am an Automotive Technology Instructor and I am constantly cutting a wide variety of materials and just non typical things every day. I have been struggling to find a balance between a knife that not only has superior cutting ability, but can also retain that edge all day without a touch up, all the while being comfortable enough to carry all day long.

In comes the XM-18. I have never given any RHK a second glance. Primarily due to the fact that they were very far out of my price range. So as the years went by, and even though they would occasionally pop up on the exchange, I just kept avoiding them.

Well My Buddy Alex insisted that they are just as comfortable if not more so than my Strider SNG. After seeing his experience with the XM-18 and especially the Re-grind, I wanted to give it a try.



I impatiently waited for one to show up on the exchange with the exact configuration that I wanted, sold a few other knives and voila...... I was a New RHK owner.




I did some initial testing to give me a baseline for the results, post re-grind.

Quite frankly......it did not cut very well in the stock form. It would cut but not slice with precision. I tested it on things like Printer paper, Some light wood crafting of sticks for my boys, and a few pieces of paracord. Dont get me wrong, it did all of these things but not very well. From my experience, it cut about the same as a stock ZT0551 or ZT300 that I owned in the past. Actually the ZT's might have cut better than the RHK .


The knife went straight to Josh at REK Literally the very next day after it showed up. The wait was painful but very well worth it!!!!!!!!!!

Right out of the package.



I simply cannot explain or find the words to make you understand how this things cuts now. It slices like my spyderco Military but better, and without fear of breakage.

I could not wait any longer to put her to work. We are getting ready for students to arrive on Monday, so we are all scrambling to get our work areas cleaned up and ready for the craziness, and I had a lot of stuff to get rid of that needed to be cut up.

First up was some very thick cardboard that was used to ship a Pneumatic/Hydraulic tubing bender, a 2 wheel industrial Grinder/sander, and a tubing notcher. This isnt your run of the mill cardboard that you get with a USPS package. This is some thick nasty stuff with Packaging tape literally all over it.

Here are a few pictures.








After I cut up the cardboard and the blade was literally covered in Crap, I decided to try and cut up this old Mudflap for a Tri-axle that I had. Not sure if any of you have ever held, seen, or cut one of these before, but they are very thick with fibers in them. They are tough as all get out so they can take getting beat with large rocks, mud, and whatever else the tires kick up.

Not the greatest pic, but trying to show the thickness of this stuff. This piece weighs a few lbs and its only half of a mudflap.




It sliced through with ease. It took a lot of pressure simply because the blade is still very thick and stout. I was starting to get some arm pump after a few minutes of holding the rubber while cutting with the other.







I decided, for the sake of time and getting distracted trying to think of what else to cut, that I would leave the other half of the flap till Monday and find out what else I could find.

A Polar water jug?? why not.



This is some thick hard plastic. I knew they were tough, but holy crap!!! No Problem for the RHK.





An old Safety Cone..... No Problem





Its not PB paper but notebook paper. Made these cuts without touching the edge.



Stropped it on the back of a Legal pad. Just a few swipes and it was able to do this.





If anyone has any reservations about the Ergo's on this blade, dont.....its simply amazing to use.


If anyone has any reservations about how much a re-grind can benefit your blade, dont...............I cannot even begin to tell you how it turned this knife into an amazing slicer.




I just want to give a HUGE Thanks Alex and Josh for making this happen. I never thought I would be at this point in my knife collecting adventure, but certainly glad I made it here.

I will be continuing to make updates along the way as I cut and test more things.
 
Thanks for a great "real world use" post.

And agreed: Josh is a true wizard. :thumbup:

Andrew
 
Wow man!!.....You got right after it!!!

Bro I am so happy that this has all worked out so well. That is a tool that will serve you well, and will keep cutting and cutting, and...you get the point.

I have stropped mine twice and I am really starting to miss having to sharpen something with my stones....!

If anyone is going to put this thing through hell, it's going to be you...look forward to how things hold up, but based on my use over the past month, there will be zero issues, and it's been used a ton, and no, it has not left my pocket!

Congrats man, and enjoy!

 
Wow man!!.....You got right after it!!!

Bro I am so happy that this has all worked out so well. That is a tool that will serve you well, and will keep cutting and cutting, and...you get the point.

I have stropped mine twice and I am really starting to miss having to sharpen something with my stones....!

If anyone is going to put this thing through hell, it's going to be you...look forward to how things hold up, but based on my use over the past month, there will be zero issues, and it's been used a ton, and no, it has not left my pocket!

Congrats man, and enjoy!



Thanks buddy. I couldnt have made this journey without your guidance, and I am grateful for that. There is no doubt in my mind that this knife will take anything I can dish out at it. I was searching so hard to find a tire that I could cut up with it!


I will continue to post up more of my findings. There might be some food prep in the near future, simply to see if I can do it and how it will perform.

So Excited about this.
 
I failed to mention before that Josh also anodized the liner for me. Its kind of a copper looking ano. I love it!

While the knife was sent off to Josh at REK, I decided to order some Copper standoffs and an LBS from Monkey Edge. After looking over the knife and playing with it non stop for a few hours, I decided to install the new parts.

Here is a before pic.




Here are a few of it after.








The LBS made the Lockbar a little tighter to disengage. I have no issue with this, and I know it will break in with use. Especially since copper is soft.

Thanks again for checking the thread out.
 
Those are some great pics Mark... thanks for taking the time to share :thumbup:
 
^^^It will still be really sharp next weekend even if you keep cutting at this rate, and do zero maintenance to the edge!!

Where are the food prep. impressions?!
 
^^^It will still be really sharp next weekend even if you keep cutting at this rate, and do zero maintenance to the edge!!

Where are the food prep. impressions?!

I am seeing that already. I have just been cutting and cutting....... All day since it arrived. And it's still like a surgical razor. Simply amazing.

I have been slacking in the food prep dept. I plan on testing it out tomorrow if I can find the time.
 
You guys are making it really tough not to send Josh my Delica.

It's just a matter of if you are happy with the cutting performance...

I don't think any production knife is even close to optimal geometry, and Josh will not only give you a great regrind that you can fine tune with him depending on how you use your knife, he will also ensure that you have an even primary grind from ricasso to tip.
 
It's just a matter of if you are happy with the cutting performance...

I don't think any production knife is even close to optimal geometry, and Josh will not only give you a great regrind that you can fine tune with him depending on how you use your knife, he will also ensure that you have an even primary grind from ricasso to tip.

Spot on.
 
Little Update.

This thing has been slicing like no other knife I have ever owned in my life. It will out cut my Military all day long. If no one believes, I will try to get some proof.

But, being the Angry Gorilla or Bull in a china shop as my mother would put it, I managed to break the tip.

Now one thing that you should know is that I actually use my knives, and sometimes i tend to use them hard. I have never owned a knife just for some pocket bling.


Earlier this morning I was helping a friend out with his Tractor and needed to replace the drive belt on it. So I whip out my RHK and go to town on the belt. Now keep in mind, I was trying to be careful about slamming the blade into anything. Especially since by design, the wharncliffe style blade has somewhat of a delicate tip.

Anyhow, when the knife broke through the blade it ever so slightly smacked into the cutting deck of the tractor. I did not immediately look at the blade, but I knew there was some carnage.

After I was done and back in my truck to head home, I pulled the knife out to see what I did to the blade. I was initially a little sick.

Kind of in the same way if you would wreck your new cobra mustang that you just bought a few weeks ago.

But being the person that I am, I decided to try and fix it myself.

Here is a few before pics.






I decided to use my DMT diamond stones to reprofile the tip back. All I did was work the knife back and forth slowly on the stones. Keeping note of how much material I was removing. I even marked the blade with some blue sharpie so I could see what I was initially taking off.

I started out with the 325 stone for most of the re-profiling. Then I moved on to the 600 so really smooth things out. Finally I finished off with a little 1200 just because I had it out.

Here are a few of how I did this, plus one of part way through.






Here is the Final Product. I am very happy with the way it turned out.







Thanks for checking out the thread.

Now off to "try" and dull this thing!!
 
Personally, I like the look of the unaltered Hinderer better. HOWEVER, I think it is totally cool that you guys are getting your knives modified exactly how you want them. As always, Josh's work is spectacular. I am amazed at how durable your knives are considering how much metal has been removed.

You have a totally cool knife, Gizler00!
 
This was inevitable man!! (Breaking that tip)

The design even out of the box is such a thin and sharp tip.
Add in the regrind, and the way you beat the hell out of a knife, and it becomes even more likeky that this was going to happen.

To be fair, Josh pointed this out before the regrind on mine, and because of this being a Wharncliff, there was really no option to leave more behind the edge at the tip like we did with my spearpoint SMF.

Don't feel too bad, I broke the tip on my El Patron, and that was in 3V!!

Easy fix, you did a perfect job, and now it will have much more behind it then it did before.
I don't think you will break it again, but hey, when you actually use a knife anything can happen!!
 
Personally, I like the look of the unaltered Hinderer better. HOWEVER, I think it is totally cool that you guys are getting your knives modified exactly how you want them. As always, Josh's work is spectacular. I am amazed at how durable your knives are considering how much metal has been removed.

You have a totally cool knife, Gizler00!

Thanks man.
 
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