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My Ronin :-D

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Got my Ronin today thanks to Mike in Warranty. Read my thread regarding him for more details. To the best of my knowledge these are going out to collectors right now.

Here are some pics:
http://cpm440v.tripod.com/ronin.htm

I really like it, but I've only had it for a couple hours so let me get a better feel before I go posting any thoughts/reviews.
 
I am glad to see the design and quality of the sheath. It looks like I will be ordering one soon.
 
Thanks for the compliments on my pics, guys!

Here's my writeup, crossposted to SelfDefenseForums, GlockTalk, and Bladeforums.

For those with their heads under rocks, this beauty of a knife was designed by Michael Janich and first made by Mike Snody. If you don't know who those two gentlemen are, then may God have mercy on your soul... or you could just check out info on them:
http://www.martialbladecraft.net/biography.htm
http://www.snodyknives.com/MS_Profile.htm

In any regards, I'm glad that Spyderco was able to come out with a custom collaboration of this model. No, not because I wanted a lower cost version, but rather because anyone who has tried will tell you that it is close to impossible to find a Snody Ronin on the market. Some complained that the MSRP for the Spyderco Ronin ($160) is the same that most places sell the custom version for, but as can already be seen, the Spyderco Ronin can be had for around $100 at a number of internet stores which is well below the asking price on the custom.

Pick up the Ronin and what does it say? "Janich/Snody"
So is that all hype? Is this the same as clothing and shoe manufacturers that sew on the names of athletes to increase sales? I can assure you that this is a far different case. Not only is it known that Janich designed this knife, but his preferences show in the design. What do I mean?

Well first of all, the ergonomics are simply fantastic. I mean you really wouldn't think they were anything special from looking at photos. In fact, before I handled it, I doubted the usefulness of such a shallow finger groove. What I didn't take into account, however, was the rounded thickness of the handle which turns even a shallow finger groove into a massive increase in grip security.

Janich prefers what he refers to as the Filipino grip, which places the thumb on the spine. And before you get all up in arms ("What a sissy saber grip?") please realize that what he is espousing is actually far different from a saber grip. A saber grip basically involves a cant of the wrist, an opening of the fingers, and a choking back of the thumb. These factors all increase mobility, but drastically decrease security. Janich, on the other hand, is basically talking about a hammer grip but with the thumb placed far forward on the spine.

This "Filipino grip," while not as strong as a full hammer grip, is far stronger than a traditional saber grip. Still, it's not a grip I'm usually too interested in, but on this knife it's extremely natural. Due to the placement of the traction grooves on the spine and its perfect angle for the thumb not to mention the relative position of the finger groove, the Filipino grip locks the Ronin into your hand at an amazing level. Like I said, it is clear that Mr. Janich put thought into this design.

The handle is not limiting, however. It works perfectly in every grip I tried, including all edge-in variants. It's one of the most universal handles possible, while still achieving sound retention. The handle has a nice thickness to it and is round in all the right places to fill the hand. The linen Micarta has been smoothed to the point of surface uniformity while still retaining a graininess that aids in grip. It is not polished like the Lum Tanto FB. The holes also aid in traction while decreasing weight.

Moving on to the blade, we find the most wicked edge imaginable. The high, full flat double grind leaves an eerily thin edge that will separate any material that dares come within sight. The needle point wouldn't stand up to even the lightest of prying but penetrates better than any knife I own. As this knife was designed as a defensive weapon, the thin edge and tip shouldn't worry you.

The sheath, while a bit large, seems to also stay true to the Snody original. The channel at the top is perfect to run the supplied para-chain through. It is the best design I've seen so far to eliminate flip-over in neck knives. Also supplied is a mini-tek-lok, but I chose to attach a Blade-Tech pull-the-dot-snap for IWB carry. It carries a bit high this way (the pull-the-dot-snap will only fit in the larger holes on the sheath) but still conceals extremely well.

The one thing you'll notice on the sheath that's not true to the original is the addition of a tension screw. I, for one, think this is a pretty neat idea, especially due to the mixed responses that Spyderco has had over their last few kydex sheaths. The argument of whether a sheath is too tight or loose can not be had with this model: you decide! What's really neat is to look at the part they used. No, it's not just another chicago screw, it's actually a pivot assembly that Spyderco uses in their G-10 models! I think that's a really interesting way to limit the amount of extra parts needed on hand. The only modification made they made is to cut a channel into the flat side of the pivot assembly, turning it into a flathead type screw. So you can loosen or tighten your sheath with the same allen wrench you use on your G-10 spydie pivots, plus a flathead screwdriver!

Complaints?
Well, I'm sorry to see it bead-blasted, but it's of no major concern. Also, the bead blasting has a weird waviness to it so that under certain light it looks like something is smeared on the blade.

To be honest, that's about my only complaint of it so far. If I come up with any others I'll be sure to let you guys know.

For the internet price of $100, I think it's a damn good knife. Just looking at the raw materials, you've got VG-10, linen Micarta, and Kydex. Now factor into that the amount of wisdom and experience that have gone into this knife and I think you'll agree with me: the Ronin is a good deal.

Well what are you still reading this for? Go buy one! Can't afford one right now? Go steal one! Sell your children! Whatever it takes!
 
Thanks, Think!

Good review. If it weren't for the fact I soon have to pay for FrontSight's "Hide-a-Badger" & trainer, I'd be ordering a Ronin right now!

I'll just have to make do with my CRKT Ryan "Plan B," which is somewhat similarly shaped and comfy in the hand, and IMO comes kinda close to what Janich has in mind for a good S-D blade.

(I just got a new Meerkat too!) :)

Karl
 
Dear Think of the Children

Thank you for the great review of the Ronin. You hit all the salient points of the design and explained them very clearly. It's really gratifying to know that the thought I put into the design becomes evident when serious users pick it up and hold it in their hands.

Again, thanks for your efforts to share your impressions of the knife.

Stay safe,
 
Hi Mike, good to see you here on bladeforums.
I always enjoy reading your MBC articles on the Spyderco.com forum.

I have a Ronin on order, can't wait to get it. Have you ever thought about writing a Ronin-specific book or video demonstrating its salient features and advantages?

Thanks for a great design!
 
Michael: I am fortunate to have both an original Ronin and I just received the Spyderco Ronin. I am extremely impressed with the Spyderco version.

My question to you is: How do you think the two compare in terms of sharpness since the grinds are different? On my simple tests, both perform quite impressively but I wanted to seek out your opinion.

Thanks
 
Originally posted by Safety Guy
If it weren't for the fact I soon have to pay for FrontSight's "Hide-a-Badger" & trainer, I'd be ordering a Ronin right now!

What the heck is a "Hide-a-Badger"? Do you need concealed critter permit to carry one?

The badger, weighing in at 15 to 25 pounds, is the "tank" of the animal world. It is low and squatty, well-armed, and heavily protected -- you wouldn't want to meet a badger in a dark tunnel. Most of the critters who do end up as lunch.
 
Mr. Janich,

Great to see you here. No thanks is needed for my writeup: I always enjoy writing my thoughts on new knives and this one just begged to be talked about.

Although off topic, I should take the opportunity to say that I really learned a lot from your video, "Fighting Folders." Thanks for putting out such quality material and quality knife designs.

Also, I fully agree with your decision on making the Ronin a wharncliffe design. In my own informal cutting tests I've been amazed at wharncliffe performance while retaining thrusting ability.
 
I love the Ronin I bought at ECCKS, but didn't like the $120.00 price that I was told was a good price. I don't remember if they charged tax, but if they did - Oh, well. I am digging this knife just the same.

But later at the show, a friend produced an original Ronin out of his stash bag and - well, how can I say this? -- Ronin Lust prevailed. We had a blast comparing one with the other. Man, I have to say, as much as this Spydie Ronin is sharp - the grind of the custom Snody version was sharper than sharp. And plenty strong due to the type of grind it was and the blade stock thickness.

At least I can pretend my Spydie Ronin, a remarkable representation by Spyderco, is the geuine article until one day ....

:)
 
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