My summer vacation the good and the bad (Knife Laws))

mike Berkovitch

mike Berkovitch

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This summer my family and I had a two weeks vacation in SF, Disney Land and NYC. It was great vacation and the places we went through were just amazing. Since it was a two weeks vacation I put some thoughts on what knife should I take with me, which will draw little attention while in use and yet could perform reasonable cutting. I decided to take with me Case Peanut, 1965-1970, with nice jigged bone. All went fine during the vacation and I even remembered to put the knife in my cargo during the flights. Then, few days before returning we went on a cruise to the Statue of Liberty, after 2 hours in line on sunny hot day, we arrived to a security check, where they gave me the option whether to leave the line or having my knife taken without the option of receiving it back. At this moment I've decided to go on with my family and give up this knife to my very (!) sorry feelings.
Beside that it was a perfect vacation.

What would you choose to do in this situation ?

Mike
 
Well you know one of the guards probably kept it for themselves. If I was going to have to give it up I woulda thrown it in the water instead of just letting them have it.
 
Sorry about your knife, didn't even think a peanut could get that kind of attention...or that it was illegal in those situations. At least is good you had a great time.
I would have went out of the line, to hide the peanut somewhere, for a later recovery, and then come back, to find my family.
 
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ac700wildcat said:
Well you know one of the guards probably kept it for themselves. If I was going to have to give it up I woulda thrown it in the water instead of just letting them have it.
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I would have done the same as you Mike but I like ac700wildcat's idea a lot.
 
How ironic that you were at the Statue of Liberty when this happened.

Me? I would have kept the knife and left the line. At that point the statue and what it supposedly stands for is exposed as a lie, and I would have no further interest in exploring such a false monument.
 
The terrorists have done so much damage with pocket knives, I'm sooo glad we have good security watching out for us. NOT!
 
mike Berkovitch said:
I decided to take with me Case Peanut, 1965-1970, with nice jigged bone ... we went on a cruise to the Statue of Liberty, after 2 hours in line on sunny hot day, we arrived to a security check, where they gave me the option whether to leave the line or having my knife taken ...

What would you choose to do in this situation ?
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I would have been POed for sure. :mad:

But think of it this way: Now you have a legit reason to shop for a new peanut. :D

-- Mark
 
It always amazes me where a little bitty knife is acceptable , and where it is not! I have pretty much avoided some situations and activities for that very same thing. Major pet peeve and freezes my giblets every time !! Any more I just shake my head and wonder.... What the h*ll!
 
Railsplitter said:
I would have done the same as you Mike but I like ac700wildcat's idea a lot.
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It sounds good but I believe you're already inside by the time they check, I could be wrong, haven't been there in 15 years. I believe the Empire State Building is the same way too :grumpy:
 
First....

You were visiting a city where it is well documented that knife laws are more restrictive than most anywhere else...even in the rest of the state. A city that, even now, is still recovering from a terrorist attack. Would it have been better if you or your family were at risk?

Second...

You knew you were entering state held property and you didnt check with anyone about what you could or could not bring to the site? Just as you cannot bring even a slipjoint into a courthouse or other public state held property, sporting events...etc... you cannot bring them into some state parks/tourist attractions.

Third.....
Throwing it into the water would've probably gotten you a "littering" citation at the very least.


You lost a slipjoint thru your own fault. Small price to pay for a lesson learned.
I would've checked first, and left the knife in my hotel room. It's not like it was gonna be much help on a sightseeing trip anyways.
 
Karda said:
You were visiting a city where it is well documented that knife laws are more restrictive than most anywhere else...even in the rest of the state. A city that, even now, is still recovering from a terrorist attack. Would it have been better if you or your family were at risk?
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Yeah, after all, Authority is Freedom, didn't Juliani say that? Oh, wait, that was Orwell.

Yeah, yeah, no politics, but just saying... These are exactly the types of freedoms some want us to just give up in the name of safety.
 
KennyB said:
Yeah, after all, Authority is Freedom, didn't Juliani say that? Oh, wait, that was Orwell.

Yeah, yeah, no politics, but just saying... These are exactly the types of freedoms some want us to just give up in the name of safety.
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You know you should leave the politics out of it, so why don't you?
Funny how many people WANT their freedoms and families protected, but whine about restrictions on their right to do stupid and often illegal things. Are you a member of ANY organisation that will do something about it?
 
Karda, do you actually know how large a CASE Peanut is?? Terrifying....I think the OP was asking what would we have done at the moment in that situation in a foreign country on holiday. Also, slipjoints are very useful for preparing fruit snacks during sightseeing...

I think I would've feigned sudden illness and asked the family to continue without me (the idea of one of my knives going into the pocket of some 'security' type makes me feel ill anyway!) I really can't see why a small (very small in this instance) pocket-knife could not be returned to its owner on leaving, rather petty I'd say. Er, I suppose you could've swallowed it......
 
They couldn't hold onto it for you, until you were finished sight seeing? Granted, I haven't been there for quite some time...
Me? I would have stayed behind. I have been there before, and it isn't as if I would be missing out on it.
 
willgoy said:
Karda, do you actually know how large a CASE Peanut is?? Terrifying....I think the OP was asking what would we have done at the moment in that situation in a foreign country on holiday. Also, slipjoints are very useful for preparing fruit snacks during sightseeing...

I think I would've feigned sudden illness and asked the family to continue without me (the idea of one of my knives going into the pocket of some 'security' type makes me feel ill anyway!) I really can't see why a small (very small in this instance) pocket-knife could not be returned to its owner on leaving, rather petty I'd say. Er, I suppose you could've swallowed it......
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Yes, i know know what a peanut style slipjoint is. That is not the point. It is not security/law enforcement/park staffs job or place to hold items for people. Items that they should've known better not to bring. The OP had the option to leave the premises with his knife. HE chose to give it up. The laws and rules are what they are, if you choose NOT to be aware of them or try to get away with breaking them, it is not anyones fault but your own.

BTW: They don't sell fruit snacks at the statue of liberty. Food and beverages are also prohibited there.
 
Karda said:
Items that they should've known better not to bring.
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I can't speak to NYC, but I know that where I live (MD/DC) many of the popular tourist destinations don't make information about whether or not knives are permitted readily available. It's been my experience that when you call to ask for clarification, the default answer is always "no knives, period", even in places that have no metal detectors or other enforcement mechanism.

Anyway, the point is that it's often hard to get accurate information.
 
CubistHamster said:
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I can't speak to NYC, but I know that where I live (MD/DC) many of the popular tourist destinations don't make information about whether or not knives are permitted readily available. It's been my experience that when you call to ask for clarification, the default answer is always "no knives, period", even in places that have no metal detectors or other enforcement mechanism.

Anyway, the point is that it's often hard to get accurate information.
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And when you cant'/don't get that information what should you do?
Err on the side of caution, of course!
My wife knows little about knives and she has common sense enough to know that you don't take a knife with you to visit the statue of liberty.
 
Karda said:
And when you cant'/don't get that information what should you do?
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Well, I've got a pretty good collection of sharp things that don't look like knives, so I usually bring one of them. Security measures that do nothing but give the poorly informed a warm and fuzzy deserve to be circumvented.
 
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CubistHamster said:
Well, I've got a pretty good collection of sharp things that don't look like knives, so I usually bring one of them. Security measures that do nothing but give the poorly informed a warm and fuzzy deserve to be circumvented.
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And if you get caught "circumventing" Security measure or laws. Who is at fault and what does that make you?
 
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