My Take on a Military TWO

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The Spyderco Military is my favorite knife I own. Everything about it is just perfect. As with all Spyderco knives, they eventually are updated and as seen in the Para2 much improved. If there were ever to be an updated Military, I would like to see a deeper choil, the same clip on the Tencious (still very Military-esque), tapped holes for 2 way clip position, the bigger lanyard tube, I'd like to see beefier screws that screw into eacheroghef (like one male a female), and get rid o the Al backspaces and make it all a flow through design. As I said, the Military is my favorite knife. I am more then happy with it but with these improvements I think it would be even a notch above where it's currently at.
 
I agree with you, especially for a tip up option. I'd love to see the ball lock from the Manix 2 on it, or even the compression lock.
 
Legend has it that deep in the mountains of Golden, Co there is a place where someone was designing a Military2. Hard to say because nothing has really been pegged as truth at this point. I'd like to see the following changes, some of which you mentioned:
-Thicker/Wider standoffs
-Flow thru construction
-Redesigned clip, same length as the current clip
-Wider lanyard tube
-Return to blocky jimping on the spine
-CPM-S35VN @ 59-60RC

I'm sure that whatever Sal & Eric decide to do with it, it will continue to be a classic.

Stop Lock
 
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The stop lock looks interesting. Still a fan of the compression lock. I like being able to open and close with one hand. Especially when I am in the middle of stuff and my other hand is full...
 
trimcut123 said:
Can this include the compression lock?
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I recall a thread on the Spyderco forums where someone mentioned the Stop Lock was to be used in the Military2. Deacon or Yablanowitz might be able to verify, they seem to be the go to guys for that kind of detail. I also recall a post where it was suggested that the regular Military and the Military2 might be produced concurrently.
 
RevDevil said:
Legend has it that deep in the mountains of Golden, Co there is a place where someone was designing a Military2. Hard to say because nothing has really been pegged as truth at this point. I'd like to see the following changes, some of which you mentioned:
-Thicker/Wider standoffs
-Flow thru construction
-Redesigned clip, same length as the current clip
-Wider lanyard tube
-Return to blocky jimping on the spine
-CPM-S35VN @ 59-60RC

I'm sure that whatever Sal & Eric decide to do with it, it will continue to be a classic.

Stop Lock
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I like your suggestions but I think 61 Rc is a much better hardness for S35vn or S30V
 
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mentaculus said:
I like your suggestions but I think 61 Rc is a much better hardness for S35vn or S30V
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61 RC is the maximum hardness for that stee, as recommended by Crucible. It may be a tad brittle at that level and leade to roken/chipped blades.

Handwrecker said:
No matter what happens with the Military 2, I hope they leave the original Military unchanged and available. I just put my Military in my pocket tip up, and it felt like blasphemy. :D

And does anyone have any idea how the comp lock works? I've seen the patent stuff, but still can't wrap my head around it. Interested to see how that ends up working.

http://www.google.com/patents?id=obMTAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4#v=onepage&q&f=false
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The Compression lock has been around a quite a while already. It's on several knives. Para, Para2, Superhawk, Superleaf, ATR,Yojimbo, etc.
Here are some links:
http://spyderco.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41833&highlight=compression+lock
http://spyderco.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40706&highlight=compression+lock
 
RevDevil said:
The Compression lock has been around a quite a while already. It's on several knives. Para, Para2, Superhawk, Superleaf, ATR,Yojimbo, etc.
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Oops, I meant to say stop lock! :o Comp lock has been in production for a while. Regardless, I posted the patent drawings but still can't visualize how it functions.
 
I agree with the blocky jimping on the spine. It looks more badass. I also want "MILITARY 2" written on the blade. :D
 
If a new Military is released, I would prefer it to be an incremental improvement like the Para1 > Para2, rather than a re-design to incorporate a different lock. Using a different lock would turn it into a completely different knife, and it would no longer be a Military. The current Military liner lock is much more user friendly (and one-hand friendly) than the compression or ball bearing lock.

Edit: in my view. :)
 
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powernoodle said:
The current Military liner lock is much more user friendly (and one-hand friendly) than the compression or ball bearing lock.
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I completely agree with that. The Millie's liner lock is very easy to disengage with the thumb while closing the blade with your index. I know from experience the comp lock and CBBL cannot be this easily operated, especially with any sort of gloves on. Again, I'd like to see the Military 2, but I hope they don't get rid of what made the Military such a classic.
 
Well Shawn, I edited that to say in my view. :thumbup:

The liner lock on the current Military is so easy to (intentionally) disengage with one hand that it is second nature. Seems to me that the compression lock can be closed with one hand, but certainly not as easily or intuitively, and it requires the fingers to be repositioned.

As far as the ball lock goes, I do not find it easy to disengage with one hand. You have to pull on one side with the thumb, and the other side simultaneously with the first finger.

Now part of my preference for the Military's liner lock as opposed to the Para 2's compression lock or the Manix 2' ball lock is the system to which one is accustomed, and so-called "muscle memory", which I guess means the same thing.

I just find the Military's lock incredibly easy and intuitive to disengage with one hand and would hate to see it disappear from the Military.

So this is just my view. And don't forget that while I almost never right about anything, I may have stumbled into the truth on this one. :thumbup:
 
shawn_ray said:
I also want "MILITARY 2" written on the blade. :D
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Having a knife that says "MILITARY2" on the blade could make for some very interesting times in the customs lounges of foreign airports - I was very happy when the current issue black blade skipped printing the word MILITARY on the blade: I sold off three older ones that had it written on the blade and replaced them with three of the more subtle ones. I travel, and often take a Spyderco Military along in my checked-on baggage. The LAST thing I need is for a knife to say "MILITARY" on it.
 
shawn_ray said:
I agree with the blocky jimping on the spine. It looks more badass. I also want "MILITARY 2" written on the blade. :D
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I have 1 Military with the older jimping and it provide a lot more traction than the newer models have. It's a positive for me since I do use mine for heavy cutting with and without gloves, and yes it does look cooler. ;)
 
I would like to see a compression lock in the Military 2 because, based on experience with the Para 2, it is super strong, usually locks up very solidly, and it is fun to play with. I find it easy to release the lock and close the blade with one hand (either hand). It just took a little practice to get good at it. Now it is second nature. So I think it would be great if the Military 2 was essentially a longer bladed version of the Para Military 2.

The other thing is that Sal has mentioned that even if the Military 2 is developed and offered for sale, they will probably continue to make and sell the original Military. So those who prefer the current model will, in all likelihood, still be able to satisfy their preference.

However, all that said, iirc, Spyderco is planning to possibly use a "stop lock" (whatever that is) on the Military 2.
 
IMHO, the Military would not be the Military without the nested linerlock.....just as well, although the Bug on the newer models is cool, I highly prefer 'MILITARY' being stamped on the blade. Sadly, times have changed.....
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