My Worst camping trip EVER!

@Hawkings I've decided to make an edit in my post rather than write the same thing over and over.

"EDIT: Ok people seem to be hanging me before my hearing so just some clarification. This is a story about something that happened over 6 months ago. I know it was stupid and immature. I'm normaly my calm bush hippie self. I can handle things as stupid as "why bring a knife camping?" but dragging it out even after I apologized? Something snapped. And my judgment was already beaten up from working all day for nothing. I'm not saying that made it ok. That's just what happened. And its not like you didn't do dumb stuff when you were young. I may be a buddhist but even I know Jesus once said "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"."
 
Thank you for helping me improve my English, its not my first language and while googlebar spelling check helps me out a lot, it does not pick up on things like that :o

Sorry man...I was showing my butt a little there;)
 
"EDIT: Ok people seem to be hanging me before my hearing so just some clarification. This is a story about something that happened over 6 months ago. I know it was stupid and immature. I'm normaly my calm bush hippie self. I can handle things as stupid as "why bring a knife camping?" but dragging it out even after I apologized? Something snapped. And my judgment was already beaten up from working all day for nothing. I'm not saying that made it ok. That's just what happened. And its not like you didn't do dumb stuff when you were young. I may be a buddhist but even I know Jesus once said "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"."

I was wondering about that 6 month lag...

Right on, I for one have done far worse and that is/was my point. Let us not forget we are all on a journey trying to learn and improve...OTOH I try not to conduct myself as if I will be graded on a curve (I think that might be setting the bar a little low;)). Perhaps no situation was ever handled ideally...hopefully we all strive to improve though!
 
"You'll shoot your eye out kid!"

Oh, wrong thread.

I think you're pretty mature for your age. Others have pointed out your mistakes, but I think you learned from them. Keep learning, reading, and doing your best. Restraint, judgment, and thinking before you speak or do things is crucial, but we always don't do that in life. Be willing to pay for your mistakes and learn from them.

My thoughts as well.
 
Glad you have an interest in survival. Sometimes you look back at the uncomfortable times, like sleeping all night while its raining in nothing but a wool blanket, and it mkakes you just a bit tougher in character. Always sucks while its happening, then you look back at it and you think - well hell I survived it. Thats how many of my trips end up and I do in fact tend to remember the ones that were hardships, painful and just out of control more so then the ones that went off like a Disney vacation. Those "perfect" trips soon get lost from the rubicon of memory. You remember the ones that made you evaluate yourself. Sounds like you had one of those experiences.
 
I'm sure it gets pretty tiresome, "adults" telling you how careless and immature you behaved, ect. So I won't. Honestly, it's not a big deal, given your age. People berate you for acting like a child, neglecting the fact you were treated like one in the first place. It's a two way street.

Also, ignore the comments referring to you being stupid. That's a load of crap. The fact you understood right away your mistake tells me you're anything but stupid. You suffered a momentary brain fart, it happens. How you learn from your mistakes is what matters.

Anyone questions why you brought a knife to the woods, be confident, tell them you always bring a tool with you.
It's not about needing to justify to an adult you have the right to carry a knife. It's about being responsible enough they see for themselves you've earned it. No one (of intellect) will feel the need to question you then.

Sometimes the best way to handle a situation where an adult is going on and on about something you did, is to just tell them (sincerely), " you're right, won't happen again". It disarms the situation and you end up feeling better about yourself. If you have that kind of attitude, for them to continue bitching about it makes THEM "the child" and you the "grown up". Food for thought.
 
(2) She is right to be mad at you because, well you did a pretty stupid thing that could have hurt small children.

How is setting his knife on a table going to hurt small children? Sure, I would have just put my knife back in its sheath, but it's not like the knife, free of its sheath, would have jumped out and stabbed a kid or something. If someone is too stupid to know that knives are sharp and will hurt them if mishandled, well, they sure won't do that twice! ;)
 
How is setting his knife on a table going to hurt small children? Sure, I would have just put my knife back in its sheath, but it's not like the knife, free of its sheath, would have jumped out and stabbed a kid or something. If someone is too stupid to know that knives are sharp and will hurt them if mishandled, well, they sure won't do that twice! ;)

You don't have small children, do you ? :rolleyes:
They will hurt them self the same way alot more then twice.
and while a 3 mm deep cut is an inconvenience to an adult it can sever tendons it small child's hand.

And to the OP, I never meant to say you were stupid, just that you did a stupid thing.
( We all do at times)
 
Interesting thread; I have learned that what you do in the outdoors is how you act in life. Much like authority figures in life, good’ol Mother Nature is quite similar. They both can be unpredictable, unfair, harsh and difficult to understand; however, if you show respect, discipline and are willing to learn you can learn much…even from the bad experiences. As kgd mentioned, it’s the tougher, more painful experiences that you learn the most from. You must also be willing to accept the consequences of your actions and even if it’s some cranky lady, maturity is how you react…not at their comments/actions, but what you did to cause it. You can only correct your own actions and reactions…

Nobody likes to be berated for something stupid that we do. Leaving a knife laying around or unsheathed is a bad habit and I would bet most of us have done this at some point. My son has a scar on his thumb from several stitches thanks to my stupidity…he found my unsheathed knife at age three and was actually trying to put it into the sheath when he sliced his thumb open. Boy, my wife gave me hell…but she was in the right and my stupidity harmed my son. You’re mother’s friend may be a witch, but your anger shouldn’t have been on her but on your actions that caused her tirade. That knife, much like fire is a great tool/asset when used properly, but both can cause you serious injury and even death if not respected or handled properly.

I’m much harder on my son when he’s around younger children. He does carry a folding knife and a fixed blade when we’re out backpacking and camping. I trust him, but I also know he can get distracted and leave his knife open and unattended; he’s getting better though (he’s 12).

You’ve taken plenty of admonishment already and I hope you’ve learned a few lessons from your trip and some of the wisdom mentioned here. Adults and other authority figures don’t know everything, but you’ll never win an argument at your age or in your position. Siguy has given some great advice on this and it’s something you’re going to have to figure out for yourself. I’ve learned as much from poor leaders (in the Army environment) as I did from great leaders; learning what not to do, how not to act, how not to treat others and how not to discipline.

Oh, and it’s not “Do as a say, not as I do”; coming from the more “seasoned” citizens, it’s more like, “Do as I say NOT AS I DID”. Experience is something you’ll never learn from a book or in a classroom. Living life is what gives you that valuable experience and some of that experience comes with a painful cost. I could shock most of you with stuff I did at your age, most of which would probably put me in jail today :D I try to teach my son right and wrong and more importantly consequences of your actions; honesty, integrity and respect are important values and they go a long way with any endeavor in your life.

Hang in there and continue to seek time in the outdoors; experiences in the bush go a long way to dealing with experiences in your life and with other people.

ROCK6
 
Knives can be a dangerous tool in the wrong hands. Some people only see a weapon. I didn't read of any mention of male adult relatives talking to you. If there were guys there, they may have pointed you in the right direction with some helpful education. I would have not let you wander off and build a camp in a public place to be away from the family protection. I would see a danger there if you were sleeping alone. There are people out there that will do harm for no reason. I have a very nice mountain man sheath that has a slit in it from some nephews that came to the house and took one of my knives out of a glass case and then shoved it quickly back it. They must have freaked out because they left the knife sticking through the sheath about two inches. I bet the have never seen a knife that sharp. I'm glad a finger was not cut badly. I probably would have been responsible. I never found out who did that. Kids will pick up a knife to cut something. You would feel very badly if a child picked up your knife and ran to show it off and fell on top of it. The knife should be on you in the sheath or in your pack. Doing so in the future, will keep anyone from walking off with it. I think the experience is a good one. You are getting good advice here. We all make mistakes. It's good to get through them quickly. The making a frog gig shows why you have your knife. It is a tool, entertainment and a chance to develop or show your skill to the younger ones. I bet they thought your shelter, gig, and knife was great. You did influence the younger ones more that you know. I'm sure that was your intention. To share your knowledge with others is great, do it wisely. Regards[/I]
 
Sounds like fun , I wish my mom would have took me camping when I was young. I don't think the times she took me deep in the woods and then ran off picking up the bread crumbs just before dark counts as camping.
seriously though it has been said "What ever doesn't kill us makes us stronger" I say life is all a learning experence so learn from it and be polite and don't be afraid to explan your reasons for your actions.
 
Not sure if this is the right thread but whatever.

It's late October and my mom lets me go on a camping trip with her, my brother and some of her friends. When we get to our spot we meet with everyone else and i decide to get started on my shelter. It's about 2 hours to sundown and i'm finally finished. So i head back and see someone else allready made a fire. And i'm tired from working and in an act of stupididty and carelessness i put my knife on a table instead of my sheath. So one of my moms friend get mad at me wich she should because there were young kids there. So i say sorry and put it back in my sheath. Bet then she actualy and truely said "why would you even bring a knife?" and i could'nt think of a responce. I should have said something like "because i dont camp in an RV!". But that's not all. Shy says as if she's my mom "I don't want to see that knife out of that sheath.". So i tell my mom about it and she says "I'm your mom. Not her. If i think your doing something wrong I'LL do something about it." So i decide to get beck at her by making a frog gigging spear right in front of her! It pissed her off pretty good. She did'nt say anything but i could tell. But then just when i star to feel good a guy with a handle bar mustache tells me i built my shelter out of my camp zone AND I wast allowed to build it in the first place! So now i have to improvise a bed of leaves and sleep in a wool blanket i brought just in case. Now its about 1 am and just when i thought it couldnt get any worse it starts to rain! and all i could think was "only about 40 more hours of this" And that's the story.

EDIT: Ok people seem to be hanging me before my hearing so just some clarification. This is a story about something that happened over 6 months ago. I know it was stupid and immature. I'm normaly my calm bush hippie self. I can handle things as stupid as "why bring a knife camping?" but dragging it out even after I apologized? Something snapped. And my judgment was already beaten up from working all day for nothing. I'm not saying that made it ok. That's just what happened. And its not like you didn't do dumb stuff when you were young. I may be a buddhist but even I know Jesus once said "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone".

Ok mate, as I see it there are four players in this game and this is what deserves to be allocated.

1] You
2] Unrelated Bloggs
3] Your mother
4] Handle bar bloke

Your role]

“And i'm tired from working and in an act of stupididty and carelessness i put my knife on a table instead of my sheath”.

Fair enough, you've admitted you were stupid. It could have been lost or stolen. When you consider how many people here have admitted losing their knives you are far from alone. Many of these people are adults too. It could be worse, you could have cut yourself doing some dumb stunt and posted pictures of it up here for all to see. Believe me, people actually do that. If you've learned something from that may be we wont see you joining the ranks of those people in the future. Win.

“Bet then she actualy and truely said "why would you even bring a knife?" and i could'nt think of a responce. I should have said something like "because i dont camp in an RV!".”

You were slow on the uptake here. When dealing with bellicose people the correct response is “to mind my own f-in' business”.

You pitched your camp in the wrong spot and got moved. Ho hum, happens a lot it seems. Look up Guerilla Camping. You were compliant once you were rumbled, big deal.


The role of Unrelated Bloggs]

She's just a dickhead. She has no authority over you, what your mother said confirms that. If she doesn't understand the role of knives in the outdoors that is her problem, it is not incumbent upon you to educate her. Do not be forced into a defensive position unnecessarily. Further, if she is unable to provide necessary supervision for the “young kids” in her charge then she is the one out of place, not your knife. All too often, either by dint of personality defect or common incompetence, do people try to shift that locus of responsibility. That is most notable when they are having problems coping. They blame knives, guns, toilet duck, whatever in an attempt to absolve themselves from the responsibility of supervisor. “I can't be watching all the time” is nearly as lame as the phrase “pester power”. She is simply nervous that she has bitten off more than she can chew and is trying of file the corners off the world to make up for her shortfall. Attacking you is just part of her MO.

Your mother]

I don't mean to insult her but as the information stands here she lacked stones. “"I'm your mom. Not her. If i think your doing something wrong I'LL do something about it." clearly indicates that she is telling you that she is the authority figure not her mate. Ideally, what should have happened is that she should have challenged her buddy. She should have said to her buddy, “if you have a problem with the conduct of my son then you come to me”. That she didn't was weak, and I believe she failed you there. So she has some learning to do too.

Handle bar bloke]

He is either right or wrong. As annoying to you as it may be provided he was courteous and polite then he's just doing his job. That's supposing it is his job. Either way you were possibly at fault.

Hope your next trip works out better.
 
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You don't have small children, do you ? :rolleyes:
They will hurt them self the same way alot more then twice.
and while a 3 mm deep cut is an inconvenience to an adult it can sever tendons it small child's hand.

No, I don't. If I did, they would learn from an early age that knives aren't toys and that they can hurt themselves very badly if they are careless. I cut myself once when I was 7 years old, and that was the last time that happened (until I bought an Izula. Those are bloodthirsty little buggers).
 
OP>>
You live and you learn, it's part of growing up. Nobody got hurt, nobody died. Hope the rest of the trip was better, and hope the next ones are even better than that!
Don't let the criticism get you down. I can't recount all the stupid stuff I did LAST WEEK, let alone when I was 14 (bamboo skewers and pneumatic bb guns was one of them)!
My worst camping trip ever?

We used to go camping with two of our friends. They would get drunk and fight (husband and wife)...and I mean FIGHT. The year my wife and I called it quits with them was when they got so drunk that one of them nearly fell into the fire during a fight. We got sick of playing babysitter and referee.
One year we were with these same friends when some hunters (guys we knew, one of which was actually a cousin of mine that I don't talk to or associate with much at all) were up on the flat we were camping on. Our friends (the drinkers/fighters) were, you guessed it, drinking and fighting. The guy takes off down the mountain in pitch blackness. My wife is sitting with the girl. One of the hunter types (I call 'em Cabella Ninjas) is all handsy with the girl and trying to get her to come back to his "cabin." Bad gets to worse and the guy starts actively holding her down and trying to drag her. So my wife yells for me (still don't know where her feller is) to come help her, little does my wife know I'm already standing behind the guy (I rounded a tree from his blind side, away from the firelight) about ready to pistol whip his brains out -- when he sees me and quits his pursuit (I guess the pistol in my hand had something to do with it). The cousin I don't associate with grabs him by the back of his neck and drags him back to the "cabin", warning him: "You're lucky that boy didn't paint the woods with your brains, moron...and you'd have deserved it."
No, I wasn't drunk. I got a bad feeling when those two showed up, so I didn't touch so much as a beer that evening. I shake my head and think how lucky six people were that things didn't go terribly wrong and then thank God we had sense enough to quit going on outings with those people. That's why alcohol isn't allowed on a camping trip that involves me.
Since then, my camping trips have often been alone and to family-owned land where I have free run and full permission from my uncle to do as I please as long I don't "catch the hills on fire."
 
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Man, you can't let your mistakes eat you up inside. You were careless with your knife. Thats not uncommon. There are tons of 'careless with my knife' posts here. We've all done it too. I have, certainly. Learn from it and move on.

Your mom's friend's attitude is common and silly. She's a pampered modern person who must cut her food with her fork. I'm still trying to learn to deal with folks like this. I get it all the time on my facebook page. "Scary". The knife posted was a kitchen knife. Jeez. These folks must only eat ground meat. You've got to learn to ignore these folks. I usually ignore them, and simultaneously edge away from them so I don't have to socialize with them.

Most state parks make you put your 'tent' in the designated (usually gravel) area. Its not ideal, but it beats the city.

I like your outdoor enthusiasm. Keep learning bushcrafting, and using your knife. Its worked out for me at least.
 
I'm sure it gets pretty tiresome, "adults" telling you how careless and immature you behaved, ect. So I won't. Honestly, it's not a big deal, given your age. People berate you for acting like a child, neglecting the fact you were treated like one in the first place. It's a two way street.

Also, ignore the comments referring to you being stupid. That's a load of crap. The fact you understood right away your mistake tells me you're anything but stupid. You suffered a momentary brain fart, it happens. How you learn from your mistakes is what matters.

Anyone questions why you brought a knife to the woods, be confident, tell them you always bring a tool with you.
It's not about needing to justify to an adult you have the right to carry a knife. It's about being responsible enough they see for themselves you've earned it. No one (of intellect) will feel the need to question you then.

Sometimes the best way to handle a situation where an adult is going on and on about something you did, is to just tell them (sincerely), " you're right, won't happen again". It disarms the situation and you end up feeling better about yourself. If you have that kind of attitude, for them to continue bitching about it makes THEM "the child" and you the "grown up". Food for thought.

Very well put Corpus :thumbup:.

Hey Buckeyebushhippie, As a fellow Buckeye, Welcome to the forum. Thanks for posting about your experience. Like others have said live and learn. Don't let too much of what some said put a bad taste in your mouth. Just remember everybody has an opinion right, wrong, or indifferent.
Also don't think I read it, what kind of knife was it ? Size ? That makes a big difference in the eyes of sheeple. If you had some zombie killing 10" blade with built in brass knuckles :eek: I could see the woman freaking out. But big or small leaving it out was a mistake which you knew right away :thumbup:.

EK20 If you have knives laying around and can teach 3 and 4 year olds not to touch them, more power to you. A knife left out in the open in a public camp ground is a danger. There are people who aren't knife nuts that take their kids camping. I'm sure it has never occurred to them to give there kids a wanning about picking up random knives. Even if they did 3-4 year olds heck 3 - 6 year olds don't always listen and know better.
 
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Well, I am indifferent on the whole matter. However, I would like to encourage you to keep being an active part of this community
and to learn as much as you can. I wish more people would do this at a younger age, such as yourself.

Keep up the good work, continue to learn from your mistakes, and listen to the smart folks here who's only goals are to help you.

Thanks for posting, keep that up as well.
 
EK20 If you have knives laying around and can teach 3 and 4 year olds not to touch them, more power to you. A knife left out in the open in a public camp ground is a danger. There are people who aren't knife nuts that take their kids camping. I'm sure it has never occurred to them to give there kids a wanning about picking up random knives. Even if they did 3-4 year olds heck 3 - 6 year olds don't always listen and know better.

Easy, tell them they are good for them. That usually results in kids running the other direction. :D

And of course it isn't smart to leave knives lying around, I wasn't saying that it was.
 
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