Nail nick VS Long pull

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Is there a particular reason for using one over the other?

I love long pulls on most blades, especially the spear type. For instance, I so wish Case would use the same blade pattern on the Canoe as on their Baby Butter Bean.

Just wondering if anyone else had a preferance?
 
Mostly just preference or cosmetics.

On occasion one actually works better than another depending on its placement, depth and the angle that it's "cut in" at.
 
SAKsRCool said:
Was the match striker pull the beginning of the long pull or did they exist prior?
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Good question. (BRL might know...) Be hard, I would think, to get a definitive answer to that as someone might pop up with something earlier.
(Logic, which doesn't always apply, would seem to indicate the match striker would be a refinement of the long pull but I'm just grasping at straws...'er, pulls. ;) )
 
I've always loved a long pull on the bigger knives like stockmen. It can look a wee bit out of place on a smaller knife.

I also deeply love the match striker pull.
 
Carl, I think you ought to have one of your Peanuts modified with a match striker pull. :D

Of course they make getting the dang matches harder and harder all the time. :rolleyes:
 
I like them both, but think the long pull seems to stand out more from a aesthetic point of view..

Placement trumps all, but on average I find the nail nicks to be more functional. It seams to me that the long pulls are usually closer to the pivot and require more force to use. Also in my experience the purchase you get with clean cut nail nick is much more secure than most long pulls.
 
Blues said:
Carl, I think you ought to have one of your Peanuts modified with a match striker pull. :D

Of course they make getting the dang matches harder and harder all the time. :rolleyes:
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I can't recall the last time I saw strike anywhere matches!:confused:

But if I did have a match striker pull on a peanut, they better be small matches.:D

Carl.
 
I like long pulls, I accept nail nics. Were not long pulls stamped on some blades or were they always cut ? My next question is then are they easier to do or cheaper ?

Here is an example of the nail nic close to the pivot taking leverage out of the game the 312 Small Trapper also the 314 Large Trapper with nics in good position for leverage. the small ones aren't nail breakers by any means but you notice the difference. The secondary blade nic is located well. I just noticed the size difference also. I favor large nics but not too large or they throw off the perspective. I would say that I would not want the PRCA 312 nic any larger.
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I have two 'favorite' stockman knives, a Buck 307 and an 8OT Old Timer. Both have long pulls on the clip blades, which extend almost all the way to the beginning of the 'clip'. I've noticed, my thumb just 'finds' the pull a lot easier on these, seems very natural. Sometimes, by comparison, my thumb has to hunt a bit, to find an ordinary nail nick on a blade. I don't dislike the nail nicks, but my preference leans toward the long pulls.
 
to me there is nothing that compares to a well executed long pull on a heavily swedged spear blade.

This GEC Dogleg is a pretty good example of success on a production knife.

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And on this Case/Bose Dogleg

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That's why I'm so excited about this one coming out

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And the customs I have on order will reflect that as well. ;)
 
They look pretty darn good on a clip, as well.

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But you sure are correct about the spear.

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They do look good on clips, which reminds me I need to get some pics of mine.

I am just partial to spears though.

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oeser That's what i'm talking about, and I already have the funds stached for the Case/Bose!

I like the long pull for some reason I can't quite explain.
 
I like the looks of long pulls,as well. But in some cases,mechanically,they are a disadvantage.
On a clip blade,if the knife has a very firm pull,if that same knife has a long pull rear of the tip area,rear of the swedged clip,it makes it very hard opening,as compared to a crescent nick under the swedge,out by the tip,for leverage.
If you look at old knives,some Case & Schrade,I think you'll see it was done this way.
Also,a recent knife I had built by Dan Burke,a swayback with a long pull on the master sheepfoot blade.In this case,Dan does it both ways.He can also put a crescent nick out near the end of the blade. On this knife,it is a natural action to grab hold of the blade out near that high end & pinch it open.That in itself just about makes the long pull version of this blade just for show.If it had the crescent style,while not as good looking to many,it is way more useful.
IMO,there are mechanical situations that benefit the use of one style,to the other,putting "looks" aside. If you look at old traditional knives ,in different time periods,they just about tried it all
-Vince
 
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Here's a hat trick of long pulls. The far right one is the thinnest width on a long pull that I have ever seen.
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On a knife like this :

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7130226&postcount=1780

Is it function,or asthetics ? Maybe function,because it gives the ised options.
Does that small knife have a "bear trap" snap,or does the owner have weak or short fingernails ?
Or is it like swedging & or tapered tangs...did the knifemaker just do it to show his skill level ?
-Vince
 
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