Natural FLASH Tinder - Dandilions!? (PICS)

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Hi Guys. I got a chance to get away from town for a couple of days over Memorial Day. The wife and I rented a rustic log cabin on Mt. Baker.
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Hey! Reading a Dale Brown novel while sitting on the porch IS getting outdoors!!!

Well, I decided it was necessary to light more on fire than my cigar, so I planned on using several carried and found tinders to use my ferro rod on. While walking about I noticed tons of dandilions that had gone to seed and were ready to spread their love all over the place. In years past I have lit dandilion flowers on fire with a lighter just because "they looked cool" buring at night. I wondered if they would ignite from a ferro rod.

As I have taken to keeping a BSA HotSpark on my keychain at all times, I whipped it out and got a dandilion to light by the fourth scrape. They burn pretty fast, and the dull yellow flame made me suspect that they don't burn terribly hot. I reasoned that if dandilions were to have a place in survival firestarting, they would have to serve only as the initial "flash tinder", like magnesium shavings do. In order to get a proper fire going, secondary tinder is necessary.

After harvesting several white dandilion flowers, I made some very fine curls from some dry wood. (This gave me an excuse to finally batton with the RAT-7!! ;) )
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I placed the flowers close together, then sprinkled some curls on top of them.

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Around this, I built a teepee of dry kindling, keeping it open enough to allow the spark to reach the dandilions. I also placed several sticks around the teepee to be added to it once the flowers ignited.

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The Flowers ignited on the third scrape of the HotSpark. The curls caught, and I added more while the flowers were still burning.

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From here it was a piece of cake to bring the fire up.

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Here are the players in today's little drama:
  1. I used my EDC Kershaw Ken Onion folder to split the tinder and to make some of the curls. I also used the back of the blade to scarpe the HotSpark.
  2. The BSA HotSpark, attached to my keys.
  3. I used my Ontario RAT-7 to batton through large chunks of wood, then shave some curls as well.
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Dandilions are very widespread and are recognized by even very small children. They tend to flower throughout the spring, summer, and fall. Their leaves are edible, and now the flowers can serve another purpose! I have read a ton of survival manuals, from Greg davenport to Cody Lungren to Tom Brown, but don't recall anyone ever mentioning these flowers as a tinder source. Did I actually get here first??? That would be cool! :cool:

-- FLIX
 
Good job! Outstanding photos! Especially the first one showing you, your dog, and that cabin you rented. Man, I'm jealous! :D Glad you had a great trip. By the way, I keep a BSA fire starter on my keyring, too, along with the striker, a mini-Gerber, and a my Windstorm whistle.
 
I spent a summer doing all we could with dandilions from all sorts of hippy books (mid to late 70's), salads, wine, sunshades (weaving)...since of course I have read hundreds of survival books, guides, and historical works. I can't say I ever knew they were able to be used as tinder. Nicely done!
 
Great looking time. That cabin looks wonderful.
 
I have read of similar tinder but can't recall a mention of Dandilions, so yeah I think your the first bro !!!
That cabin looks awesome, my kinda place !
What's your dog ? Does it have some Akita in it ?
I often look at Mt Baker from over here at my end so it's nice to see someone that's there !!!!
 
Did they really catch that good? Or did you have to do a couple of "takes" before it worked. That would be a great, great thing if dandelions could be used as tinder.
 
Good job........ I was playing with the dandylion seed fluff this morning. Except, I was helping it spread with the help of my grandaughter. :D
 
I have read of similar tinder but can't recall a mention of Dandilions, so yeah I think your the first bro !!!
That cabin looks awesome, my kinda place !
What's your dog ? Does it have some Akita in it ?
I often look at Mt Baker from over here at my end so it's nice to see someone that's there !!!!

Hey pitdog,

Yeah, I'm a log cabin fanatic. I've been dreaming and designing for half my life. One of these days I'm gonna build, if I ever get the dirt I want. The cabin was great! Yes, Tasha is 100% Akita. She is a "long-hair" so it throws people off sometimes.

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Did they really catch that good? Or did you have to do a couple of "takes" before it worked. That would be a great, great thing if dandelions could be used as tinder.

Troop,

I ignited dandilion flowers twice with my ferro rod - one as a simple test to see if it would light form a spark and once to see if I could get secondary tinder going and start a fire. I described both of these truthfully in my original post. In each case, the flower ignited on either the third or fourth scrape of my knife. I did not do "multiple takes" or secretly use a lighter or anything else to phony up the pictures. You can verify this yourself an just a few seconds. The trick isn't igniting the dandilions, it is getting the next stage of tinder to light.

Good job........ I was playing with the dandylion seed fluff this morning. Except, I was helping it spread with the help of my grandaughter. :D

longbow,
Just think of all the tinder she is producing for you! :D

-- FLIX
 
Sorry for the way the post sounded; didn't mean to doubt you or anything; I just thought that the dandelions would be too moist, for some reason.
 
Hey FLIX I can see she 100% Akita now you have shown that pic. She is a great looking dog, I have always liked them, they are a damn strong beast and very self willed !!!!
 
Hey pitdog,

Yeah, I'm a log cabin fanatic. I've been dreaming and designing for half my life. One of these days I'm gonna build, if I ever get the dirt I want. The cabin was great! Yes, Tasha is 100% Akita. She is a "long-hair" so it throws people off sometimes.

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-- FLIX

My first thought was beautifull cabin , setting , and that looks like an Akita :D

Great pics , and post . Thank you. :thumbup:
I've loved Akitas ever since I met my first one. :D
Great looking girl you got there.

Phil
 
Great job,excellent pictures, I learn something new everyday....and have read dozens of survival books & manuals and never recall that method, thanks for the tip.
 
How do the Akita's fare in cold weather. Are their coats thick enough? I'm moving up to Alaska in a few years. I've heard they're pretty tough...would be good for the bears up there...at least for a while.
 
Hey FLIX I can see she 100% Akita now you have shown that pic. She is a great looking dog, I have always liked them, they are a damn strong beast and very self willed !!!!


Naw , ( well maby a little head strong ;) )

13 years old , and getting tired . The best dog I've ever shared my life with.
His ashes are behind me as I type. My wife and him , his last trip to camp.:(

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Our latest addition , little girl with a busted basket ball

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Phil
 
How do the Akita's fare in cold weather. Are their coats thick enough? I'm moving up to Alaska in a few years. I've heard they're pretty tough...would be good for the bears up there...at least for a while.



:thumbup:

Phil
 
How do the Akita's fare in cold weather. Are their coats thick enough? I'm moving up to Alaska in a few years. I've heard they're pretty tough...would be good for the bears up there...at least for a while.

If you are looking for a hardy dog for helping fend off bears you might also look into getting a Laika !!!
 
The trick isn't igniting the dandilions, it is getting the next stage of tinder to light.

-- FLIX

Hey Flix,

Here's a little trick that I do to "extend" the burn time. Seperate the fluffy stuff from the dandylions and form it in your hands like a cotton ball. That way you still have enough "fluff" on the outside to catch a spark and a semi-solid middle section to grow the coal. Of course, you'll have to blow the coal to grow it. But it works well.

This works especially well with cattail down.


Roger
 
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