Navy SEALs

fedaykincmndr said:
In the Marine Corps a perfect (300) PFT is a minimum of 15 pull-ups, 100 sit-ups in 2min or less, and 3-4mi run (depending on the course) in 18min or less.
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I remember you had to do 20 pull-ups for a perfect score. But I was only in the Marines for five years so I could be wrong.
 
DaleW said:
So if this young man hits the books, paying attention to math, physics, chemistry, and a foreign language, turns out for wrestling, track, and swim team, he should be ready to go, right?
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If he does all those things, he can be anything he wants.
 
My nephew is now in, and they went to 20 dead hang pull ups, when you used to be able to "kip". Big difference. 20 dead hang pull ups is a little bit of work.
 
Robert H said:
My nephew is now in, and they went to 20 dead hang pull ups, when you used to be able to "kip". Big difference. 20 dead hang pull ups is a little bit of work.
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lol. Way, way, waaay back in the day I was a swimmer, a gymnast and a recreational runner. I think it's the running that would have tripped me up if I'd ever tried for the SEALs (although I might have been able to pull off marathons if I'd put my mind to it), but I can remember a time when 20 dead hang pull ups was a warm up. And I used to race miles (swimming, open water) just for grins.

But, you see, I'm not a former SEAL, combat vet, or any kind of a veteran at all, so I get to brag if I want. ;)

The older I get, the faster I was ....
 
Man, you missed the chance! They run, but it's almost all distance running. I used to run 7 miles every morning in the Corps, course now if I run a half mile I think I might die. Ah........ the younger days. I'd be lucky to pull of 3 dead hangs now.
 
SEALs, SWCC's have their own rate now. SEALs are now SO's (Special Warfare Operators) SWCC's are SB's (Special Warfare Boat Operators) You can enlist with a SEAL challenge contract, go to boot camp and then straight to BUD/s. If you DOR (Drop on Request) you will be assigned to the fleet as an undesignated Seaman and or be assigned an A-School. If you complete BUD/s and SQT you will be assigned the SO Rating. You need to be in peak physial condition to include swimming using the combat side stroke and running in deep sand with boots. Work on your upperbody strength especially pull-ups. The O-Course will smoke you if you don't have a strong upper body. Your grip will be pushed to near failure until you gain technique and strength.
 
Semper Fi Mr. Humbelbaugh.

Scrateshooter you're right. I just can't seem to get my facts straight this week. :foot:
 
Most important abilities to have for service in a military elite unit is:

1. Always stay calm in any circumstances, this is vital both for qualifying and serving. This cannot be measured, but to a certain degree it can be trained.
2. Never ever allow your body to win over your mind, that is the definition of a quitter. No matter how much your body protests the mind calls the shots.
3. Be prepared for dirt, sweat, pain, destroyed feet and boredom.
4. Any requirements on running, push ups shooting skills is just a prerequisite. If you cant excel at all of these consecutive one after the other in the middle of the night after 4 days of no food or sleep you will be in the washout club.
5. if the 4 above statements turns you on you will be an outstanding special forces operative.

//Good luck
 
one source is the Navy them selves, they have a website that has a list of the things needed to become eligible for BUDs. wrestling, swimming and cross country would be the better options for school sports.

I know a few SEALs thru a buddy who was a Doc for them. The impressive thing to me is the size of the guys. or rather lack of. Almost all I met were 6'1 and under, several at the 5'9 or so range. all were not roid monsters. but rather lean and hard. They were probably along the line of 5'9 160 to 175 tops, and all looked like a hard day roofing in 100 degree temps would be no big deal, if you get the idea. I would visit my buddy in SD and he would have some of these guys over for BBQ and you get to meet them. All were well educated, with many speaking several languages and some having advanced degrees.

Even if you do not get into team sports, at least get into running all these guys love to run.
 
Razorsharp244 said:
If you cant excel at all of these consecutive one after the other in the middle of the night after 4 days of no food or sleep you will be in the washout club.
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Seriously, this is the part that was the worst for me. I spent 96 hours with only 4 hours sleep once in the army during an exercise. By the end of it there were gaps in my memory. To this day I don’t know what happened during a certain part of the period even though in one instance I apparently drove a jeep several miles and for at least 20 minutes, at least 20, and didn’t “wake up” until I came to a stop sign. I remember absolutely nothing about the drive, nothing about the route I took, nothing about what I did, nothing about what I passed. Thank God it was in the middle of the night when very few citizens where on the road. I had no reason to drive and was supposed to actually wait at a rendezvous point and instead apparently drove off on my "joy ride". The last thing I actually remember was sitting in the jeep waiting at the rendezvous point like I was supposed to do, then I "woke up" at the stop sign.


KR
 
Guntotin_fool said:
I know a few SEALs thru a buddy who was a Doc for them. The impressive thing to me is the size of the guys. or rather lack of. Almost all I met were 6'1 and under, several at the 5'9 or so range. all were not roid monsters. but rather lean and hard.
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I suspect that's true of most really hard-ass adventurers of any stripe. A real big guy would surely tire out faster, no? I bet drill sergeants love to see some big 250# bruiser get worn down :D

kr1 said:
...in one instance I apparently drove a jeep several miles and for at least 20 minutes, at least 20, and didn’t “wake up” until I came to a stop sign. I remember absolutely nothing about the drive...
KR
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That's happened to me, too! Different reason though :o

All this stuff is why I'm a civilian. My hat is off to all who even make an honest effort to achieve that level of fitness and skill, even if they do wash out.
 
Sometimes it's a logistic issue. It's tough for big guys to fit into cramped traveling quarters for long, long periods of time. Having personally known perhaps half a dozen SF folks personally, and by extension a couple dozen, they have all been under 5'-10".

You can tuck five or six guys like this into a smaller aircraft/watercraft compartment, and more "gear" is available for them in their size. One of the guys I knew longest also commented, on his lack of height, that shorter tends not to stick out in other countries as much, versus a powerhouse, 6'-3", 300 lb American... but I don't know how serious he was.
 
x39 said:
If he does all those things, he can be anything he wants.
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You got my point :) Prepare the mind and the body and you can fill in the blanks when you are ready to make a decision. Make yourself strong and smart and you can live as "interesting" a life as you want. And you can't start too early!
 
I know of two Seals in my area,one from Vietnam,and one in between then and now.There both drawing Disability checks,one mental and one Physical.If you like the way you are now I would re think the Rambo thing.Only when then country needs it,forget the pride.
 
Bigger guys have more strength but break down easier. Big muscles need more food. A 265 lb linebacker type needs way more water, and in real life has only a marginally increased load bearing capacity than the hard as nails 175 pounder. Look at the guys like Will Steger who have dragged a sled to the north pole or walked across Antarctica, they are all in that 165 pound or so class. Look at motocross guys or soccer players or hockey players, they are more muscle and sinew than bulked up monsters.


As to SEAL team 6, http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/agency/navy/nswdg.htm

There are some who say that this exists at the basis for "the Unit" tv show and other black ops movie/tv shows. Some say it only exists in the minds of writers and psy-ops people who developed it to use as cover for other things. There is a lot of conflicting information regarding all of this which is probably intentional, if you do this sort of thing for a living, the last thing you want on the internet is accurate information about yourself, training, and logistics.
 
kr1 said:
Seriously, this is the part that was the worst for me. I spent 96 hours with only 4 hours sleep once in the army during an exercise. By the end of it there were gaps in my memory. To this day I don’t know what happened during a certain part of the period even though in one instance I apparently drove a jeep several miles and for at least 20 minutes, at least 20, and didn’t “wake up” until I came to a stop sign. I remember absolutely nothing about the drive, nothing about the route I took, nothing about what I did, nothing about what I passed. Thank God it was in the middle of the night when very few citizens where on the road. I had no reason to drive and was supposed to actually wait at a rendezvous point and instead apparently drove off on my "joy ride". The last thing I actually remember was sitting in the jeep waiting at the rendezvous point like I was supposed to do, then I "woke up" at the stop sign.


KR
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Awww, the good old days of continuous ops exercises. I was reading recently some suggestions on how to stay awake including chewing on coffee grounds and putting hot sauce on your lower eyelids (ouch?!). I always found the best way was having good companions...Durkin who would fall asleep, while road marching,...Schwendinger, who low-crawled a hundred yards in the snow after making a disparaging comment on the parentage of our leadership, then made the comment again..."Briar" Bailey, who could make you laugh just by laughing...Fuentes, whose wife filled his rucksack with forty pounds of tamales before an exercise. I haven't seen these guys in years and can still remember the sound of their voices and the crazy stuff they used to do to get eachother to laugh under adverse circumstance. I only hope that I was half as good a companion to them as they were to me.

Sorry, waxed away all nostalgic there for a minute, but anybody who has been through it will probably agree that they've never had friends like they had during their time of service.
 
That is true Taks Force K. I still consider some of the guys I served with to be good friends even if I have not even seen them for 13 years.

I also found laughing (quietly of course) to be the best way to stay awake. Watching someone fall asleep walking could keep me awake for hours.

Personally I never had any (major) mental blanks but I experienced as all other that "tired" means very different things to different people.

Best days of my life!
 
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