Neat trick with a firesteel

Or you can pull this out of your pack, pop the lid, flick your bick and have a long lasting and cheap, fire starter.

http://zenstoves.net/Sterno.htm

Keep the primitive stuff as a back up. Im not playing with my life. When it is freezing cold and Im tired, hungry, I have no time or patience to play fire cadet. Try starting a fire with these toys with stiff fingers and a half frozen body in bad weather. OK.... better yet, just bring a roll of ass wipe and a lighter. When those little fluffy cotton balls burn up and your damp half frozen wood tinder, leaves, dry grass whatever didnt light, the game turns serious. I want to KNOW that I can light up the local tinder, grass,leaves even when half wet. Because this is real life and not some BS back porch experiment. Sorry, but I have little patience for the gadget groupies that never leave their yard. Take your firesteels, crap paper, then go into the bush and light a fire with the materials around you. I meen a real fire, not just a few twigs going up. Time how long it takes you. Now realise that you might have to do this in the rain, snow, extreme cold, wind, at night etc when tired and hungry. You will see my point. Who gives a damn how you start the fire. Priority one is to start it...and quickly. A lighter is more of a flashlight at night than any firesteel.
 
UpNorth,

I am not a gadget groupie and have spent 4 decades in the woods.
I agree everyone should have a Bic, and I agree a flint could be a "back up".

Oh, BTW, flint is not a GADGET, it was the primary means of lighting fires for hundreds if not thousands of years.

The reason we discuss these things is-
A: to share info.
B: to see what works
C: IT'S NOT A BACK UP UNLESS YOU PRACTICE WITH IT AND ARE PROFICIENT WITH IT.

As you say, I'm not playing with my life , therefor we discuss back and forth what works and what doesn't. If someone tries it out back it's a much better indicator whether it's nonsense, or viable.

I, and others, have posts about lighting fires in the rain, wet, and with nothing but damp wood around and how difficult it is.

How would anyone learn any of this if they didn't discuss it?
If they didn't try it?

I'd rather know 20 different methods of lighting a fire, than 2 or 3.

Keep em coming.
 
A friend of mine played with UHU glue and fire. He said he squeeze one whole tube and lighted it. It burst into flame and gave out lots of black smoke...I wont trust what he tell me cuz he told some lies a few times. But I got to try that out when i am free sounds fun Hehe... Or have any one tried it out already??
 
Take a bic and a doans magnesium bar and totally submerge them in a bucket of water for a month or 6 months. Then take them out and try to start a fire with them, report back as to which is the gadget. Chris
 
Dale,

Coldwood timed how long a PJ soaked cottonball would stay lit.
As I recall it was in the neighborhood of 8 to 9 minutes!
You can fit 4 or 5 of these in 35mm film container. They take a spark well, and burn hot and long.

I use these often, and they are in all my kits now. They'll burn in rain and snow and they'll burn long.:thumbup:
 
I tried the trick of wrapping the tp around the striker, actually used papertowel and it worked great. Have to be careful how you put it on the striker so you can then get it off and onto the rest of your tinder. Also tried holding the tinder, in this case cotton ball, with the striker as you make the sparks and it worked wonderfully. Was wondering if anyone has tried the latter trick with the pj soaked cotton balls. Does it affect the sparking?

Thanks,

Charles
 
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