Neck knife options.

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MikeS1605

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So I have been thinking about carrying a second knife since Illinois isnt a gun friendly state and there are a lot of crazy mother fuckers walking around Chicago. I know that Having 2 knives when a crackhead has a gun still isnt good odds but I still feel obligated.

So for the past few weeks I have been looking at your traditional fixed blade compact neckers. Then I came accross a nice sheath for a spyderco ladybug and it got me thinking about possibly carrying a folder around my neck.

I have never carried a knife around my neck so I really have no opinion on what would be better from a self defense standpoint. Obviously you dont have to open a fixed blade so it my be a little quicker deployed but with the nice big thumb ring on the ladybug, it would not take any time to quickly deploy in an emergency.

Anyone have any opinion on this? Am I over thinking this? Thanks in advance.
 
ThePharce said:
I would go with a fixed, personally...that millisecond could save your life.
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This, in addition to the fact that there are many lightweight, high quality fixed blade neck knives. So you don't gain anything by going to a folder, really.
 
I'd definitely go with fixed. I wear a swamp warden around the house for utility tasks.

Also own a Tops Baghdad Box Cutter and in my opinion that's a better option for self defense.
 
Esee junglas, obviously. Do you seriously want a barely-2" blade to be the only thing standing between your frail girlish body and an angry crackhead?

Hell no! You're going to need that full sixteen and a half inches of steel and unpleasantness sheathed around your neck to make a determined mugger think twice.
 
Dorito Monk said:
Esee junglas, obviously. Do you seriously want a barely-2" blade to be the only thing standing between your frail girlish body and an angry crackhead?

Hell no! You're going to need that full sixteen and a half inches of steel and unpleasantness sheathed around your neck to make a determined mugger think twice.
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Don't forget to wear that ESEE Lite Machete around your neck too!

On a serious note, +1 for the Izula / Izula II.
 
I agree with the other posts. I like the fixed blade option...

But is it legal for him to carry a fixed blade in Illinois? Chicago area?

Maybe someone with more knowledge could elaborate. I was under the impression that Chicago had strict carry laws (hence the Spyderco Chicago model).
 
I like the Izula for utillity, but for self defense?? ...I can think of tons of more effective knives for that.

...Just some thoughts.... Personally I would go for a folder first. One of the main advantages of a folder is that you can get a lot more blade in a more compact design, pluss there seems to be a LOT more options (models to choose from) when it comes to folder vs necker.

Pluss a necker is harder to get to IMHO, since you either have to reach up under your shirt and coat or pull it out the top of your collar just to get to it, unless you're going to wear it on the outside of your cloths all the time while in puplic. Which leads to another problem which is that the cord it's hanging from can be a serious choke hazard, as it's easy for your attacker to grab and pull if you ever do get into a scuffle.

And again, uless you're wearring it on the outside, I find most folders to be faster on the draw anyway.

...But if you're having trouble deciding, I would just cary both. :)
 
Wow so the overwhelming majority goes for fixed blades...

Dorito Monk said:
Esee junglas, obviously. Do you seriously want a barely-2" blade to be the only thing standing between your frail girlish body and an angry crackhead?
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Lol, my frail girlish body is 5'11, 240 lbs, 14% body fat, has been power lifting for 12 years and has been in a mixed martial arts/ thai boxing gym for 5 years. as long as such said crackhead dosnt have a heater the knife will NEVER come out. :D

slaveman said:
I agree with the other posts. I like the fixed blade option...

But is it legal for him to carry a fixed blade in Illinois? Chicago area?

Maybe someone with more knowledge could elaborate. I was under the impression that Chicago had strict carry laws (hence the Spyderco Chicago model).
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Im not worried about that. My EDC is a benchmade auto stryker which is as illegal as it gets in the Chi. Blades like twice as long as legal and its an auto...
Im a peaceful, law abiding citizen. As a matter of fact, I left my license at a bar almost a year ago and still haven't gotten another one because I never get in trouble or need it. I do have a state ID though. Good thinking though :thumbup:

BryFry said:
...But if you're having trouble deciding, I would just cary both. :)
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You mean carry a necker AND a folder? If thats what you are refering 2, thats what im looking to do :D
 
If you are a close-combat expert, skilled with using knives, you would not ask the question.
If you have no combat training and skills, your use of the knife will give you a false sense of security, and will make your situation even worse - no matter the knife.
Go for some selfe-defence tools wich do not require or could be of some use with less skills. Do not touch knives!
I practiced karate for 6 years when I was younger. That actually did not make me anithing even close to an expert. That just helped me to realise how serious the combat situation might be and how unprepared most people are - with knives or without.
These few miliseconds talk - is just ridiculous.
If you want to improve your chances - start jogging.
 
I love neck knives!

Since I started making knives I've carried my own but before that I had a Bark River Bravo Necker that I really liked a lot, it was super slicey. I also really like the looks of the new knife thats a collaboration between becker and ESEE. Its called the esecobar (spelling????)
 
Poez said:
If you are a close-combat expert, skilled with using knives, you would not ask the question.
If you have no combat training and skills, your use of the knife will give you a false sense of security, and will make your situation even worse - no matter the knife.
Go for some selfe-defence tools wich do not require or could be of some use with less skills. Do not touch knives!
I practiced karate for 6 years when I was younger. That actually did not make me anithing even close to an expert. That just helped me to realise how serious the combat situation might be and how unprepared most people are - with knives or without.
These few miliseconds talk - is just ridiculous.
If you want to improve your chances - start jogging.
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Hey, no offense, but you should speek only for yourself. Just because YOU may not be comfortable defending yourself with something sharp dosen't necessarily mean other people have to be some kind of "expert" to use one.

Don't get me wrong, the right kind of training can be helpful, but in the hands of anyone with an ounce of coordination or natural fighting skill a blade is in fact quite effective, without having to be a 12th level ninja master.



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Po, I appreciate your opinion but dont agree with it at all. When your family is in danger Its instinctive. Primal even. Stab, punch, elbows...

Im not saying it is pointless to be trained in close hand knife combat, but saying if you DONT have this training that you shouldn't carry a knife is stupid.

As I stated before, I have been training MMA for 5 years now. at 240 lbs I can run for hours at a moderate pace. I have done it. Does this mean my whole family can?

Again, I appreciate your opinion but thats just my .02
 
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I think the izula without paracord or scales, simply bare bones would be a nice 2nd option for self defense.. for some reason I can picture myself being able to use the loop at the end to spin/drop the blade into a reverse grip easily.. I don't know though since I don't own it, want one though.
 
I understand, I also live in chicago and i carry at least two knives on me most of the time.
usually a small to med edc knife for work and then i carry a small fixed blade for self defence on my hip. right now i switch off between the crkt triumph neck knife or the tdi kabar
 
I too live in chicago. I believe that fixed blades are illegal, and folders under 2 inches are legal. I just carry what I want anyways, I figure it depends on the officer who pulls me over. I don't seem like someone who is up to no good, "I use them for work". And i also don't plan on using them for self defense purposes.
 
1: the izula can be a very effective defensive weapon. I know a few tactical unit cops who carry one for just that reason.
2: kind of a no brainer, but have you considered a perrin neck piece, such as a le griffe?
3: powerlifter, huh? Here's to a brother in iron!
 
eneyman said:
I think the izula without paracord or scales, simply bare bones would be a nice 2nd option for self defense.. for some reason I can picture myself being able to use the loop at the end to spin/drop the blade into a reverse grip easily.. I don't know though since I don't own it, want one though.
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So far, the izula is what im starting to lean towards.

rod tak said:
I too live in chicago. I believe that fixed blades are illegal, and folders under 2 inches are legal. I just carry what I want anyways, I figure it depends on the officer who pulls me over. I don't seem like someone who is up to no good, "I use them for work". And i also don't plan on using them for self defense purposes.
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Im actually back in college to get my EMT licens to become a fire fighter so I hoping the "its for work" line helps If I ever run into a problem with LE.

ThePharce said:
1: the izula can be a very effective defensive weapon. I know a few tactical unit cops who carry one for just that reason.
2: kind of a no brainer, but have you considered a perrin neck piece, such as a le griffe?
3: powerlifter, huh? Here's to a brother in iron!
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I have not looked into the perrin stuff but I will now. Yup, uncle owned a gym in chicago and my dad worked there so I literally grew up in a gym since I could walk. \m/
 
Poez said:
If you are a close-combat expert, skilled with using knives, you would not ask the question.
If you have no combat training and skills, your use of the knife will give you a false sense of security, and will make your situation even worse - no matter the knife.
Go for some selfe-defence tools wich do not require or could be of some use with less skills. Do not touch knives!
I practiced karate for 6 years when I was younger. That actually did not make me anithing even close to an expert. That just helped me to realise how serious the combat situation might be and how unprepared most people are - with knives or without.
These few miliseconds talk - is just ridiculous.
If you want to improve your chances - start jogging.
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It's amazing the number of people who are stabbed to death each year by people without "close combat training". How many classes with James Keating should each of us take before we are qualified to carry knives? I guess I should leave my 9mm at home as well as I've never actually been in combat and therefore in your opinion must be unqualified to carry it?

BTW, I've had PLENTY of training in how to use knives for defense. I believe it goes with the responsibility of carrying the things.
 
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