Neck knife suspension

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When I carry a neck knife I the city I use a ball chain and the gutted para cord. I think there is a greater danger of someone grabbing it in a fight, in which case it would break. I have carried a neck knife i the bush for years and never had it snag on anything. If it did snag you still have a knife handy to cut it with. Mac

 

[valcas1]

I like Para-Cord and a little bit of heat shrink tube. I am not sure what eh exact breaking stregnth is but it will pull apart at the joint of the shrink tube.

 

[darkwaters]

ive never had a problem with snagging on any thing , ive used a neck knife for over 2 years and i crawl through crawlspaces and attics. if you are that worried about hanging yourself just dont wear a neck knife

 

[Marion David Poff]

I prefer not to wear a knife around my neck, instead to wear it as was previously mentioned or in a MercHarness.

But, if neck carry was de rigueur, then I would do the polyolephin (heat shrink tube) over paracord thing....

I will have to get some polyolephin, and see what works best, exactly....

Marion

 

[facablade]

godd idea other way inspired in yours is use a rubber tube and pass through paracord end and made a knot and then the other paracord end in the other direccion throgh the tube and made another knot.
Other idea is use o stucked rubber Orings instead of tube

 

[stingray4540]

Ummm.... What about just using a regular ID/key lanyard???

Or just take the break-away connection off a lanyard and put it on the ends of your 550 cord...

...Otherwise I like the plumbers chain 95% covered by 550 cord shell.


Maybe it's just me, but it seems you guys are making a simple problem more complicated than it needs to be.

 

[phaserrifle]

Ummm.... What about just using a regular ID/key lanyard???

Or just take the break-away connection off a lanyard and put it on the ends of your 550 cord...

...Otherwise I like the plumbers chain 95% covered by 550 cord shell.


Maybe it's just me, but it seems you guys are making a simple problem more complicated than it needs to be.

all the ID/key lanyards that I've seen have a single point to attach the keys/ID to the lanyard. which means that the neck knife is free to spin, and would probably be presented at an angle (manny have two eylets at the end.)
and because they are made of flat webbing strap, the fittings wont work with 550 cord, and so you have to try and add cord on the ends of the straps for that to work.
if only it where that simple.

 

[Ravaillac]

As for neck carry, I think it is among the most practical; easily available, you tuck it under your shirt when not in use and move it out when required. Even work in winter with heavy clothing on.

My thoughts, exactly. Seems pretty far-fetched, to me.

Well as I said, it is very unlikely and I have disregarded it so far without much trouble, yet there are plenty of sports or activities like factory working where that kind of lace is strictly forbidden, and while outdoors, it has happened to me (or seen happen) a handful of times to tumble down a hill or fall in thick bushes, and I've happened on some occasions to work in trees or up a scaffold... And it is often in those occasions when you want both hands available that neck knives are interesting. Plus I like to keep a large loop for neck shealths for easy manipulation.

So still unlikely, and it probably won't ever happen to most people on this board, yet I can see it happen.

Ummm.... What about just using a regular ID/key lanyard???

Nothing wrong with that, those are still quite speciality items you won't find in a cabin or in your home if you are in a rush.

godd idea other way inspired in yours is use a rubber tube and pass through paracord end and made a knot and then the other paracord end in the other direccion throgh the tube and made another knot.
Other idea is use o stucked rubber Orings instead of tube

Funny after reading the first posts, I came with a similar idea.

Plenty of good advice so far, thanks everybody.

 

[sixgunner455]

Not to pick at nits, but ... I am wondering why you believe that the majority of deaths from hanging are technically due to damage to the spine in the neck. In deliberate executions by hanging, that is the goal -- the sudden jerk at the drop causing near-instant death, though it does not always happen. On the other hand, in the case of accidental hangings and suicides, there is not usually a drop followed by a sudden jerk. In the cases I am aware of, most of the deaths were due to suffocation by strangulation. I have, unfortunately, been witness to multiple incidents (attempts and completions) of that type since I worked for several years at a mental hospital. We took inservice training to help prevent them, so we actually studied what happened in those incidents and others from outside our facility. It's been quite some time now, so I don't recall specific details outside the incidents I witnessed personally.

All that said, I think that the tensile strength of a material required for strangulation is less than that required for breaking a neck. So, if it will break under less than that amount of strain, you shouldn't have anything to worry about from either type of accident.

 

[Ravaillac]

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My point was mostly pointing that "the cord as a lower strength rating than my body mass so that's ok" wasn't necessary enough.
As I said hard to draw a line without actual experience in those accident.

Of course your input from real cases is very valuable.

That said it remains quite complicated to know how much you need.
Even pretty mundane nylon strings can easily hit a 120lbs tag in tensile strength. And that's manufacturers specs meaning the actual cord generally have some security margin.

 

[EMT_Lee]

As for neck carry, I think it is among the most practical; easily available, you tuck it under your shirt when not in use and move it out when required. Even work in winter with heavy clothing on.


Well as I said, it is very unlikely and I have disregarded it so far without much trouble, yet there are plenty of sports or activities like factory working where that kind of lace is strictly forbidden, and while outdoors, it has happened to me (or seen happen) a handful of times to tumble down a hill or fall in thick bushes, and I've happened on some occasions to work in trees or up a scaffold... And it is often in those occasions when you want both hands available that neck knives are interesting. Plus I like to keep a large loop for neck shealths for easy manipulation.

So still unlikely, and it probably won't ever happen to most people on this board, yet I can see it happen.


Nothing wrong with that, those are still quite speciality items you won't find in a cabin or in your home if you are in a rush.


Funny after reading the first posts, I came with a similar idea.

Plenty of good advice so far, thanks everybody.

Granted, slips and stumbles do happen in the woods. However, as I said, if you're tumbling down a hill, hanging on your neck knife is pretty low on the risk scale. You're much more likely to break your arm, or leg. If it is really a concern for you, by all means, take measures to prevent it.