Need a good rust preventor

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Hi all.

Imagine if you will the deafening silence of my heart stopping when I discovered a RUST spot on the blade of my new Strider Tactical GB!!! :eek:

I had already applied FP-10, a quality CLP, to the blade, but apparently rust inhibition isn't one of the qualities that FP-10 posesses. :mad:

What is a good rust preventor? I've heard good things about tuf-cloth.

Any ideas?

Thank you!
Drjones
 
Nothing works if you use the knife. I have used many and they all come off pretty much right away with use, including the stronger grades of them such as the Marine Tuf Cloth. The only way to keep steel blades completely free of rust is to never use the knife, or clean it after each use and oil (or whatever) it again.

-Cliff
 
Cliff has it right. Any real user will wear off whatever kind of rust preventative you try to do.

There are alternatives like Bodycote, but that's another story in price and hassle.
 
Originally posted by etp777
Cliff has it right. Any real user will wear off whatever kind of rust preventative you try to do.

There are alternatives like Bodycote, but that's another story in price and hassle.
So should I just save my money and try to keep the blade oiled?
 
Drjones,

If this happened to one of my Microtechs, I'd be freaking. But let's face it, it's a Strider.

My AR and SnG see sweaty blue jeans, rain, and in a few months, a Wisconsin winter. I am tired of drawer queens that break my heart. I need a jackknife.

My friend, Lynn Little, would jab his AR through the trunk of one of those abandoned cars in his front yard if he thought he left a chaw of beef jerky by the spare tire.

Did you ever notice you rarely see a pristine Vincent Black Shadow motorcycle? They were made to be ridden, and ridden hard. Mick makes a pocketknife for guys who don't know what's coming next.

Honor the knife.
 
Ichabod:

I understand and agree completely. As I have said elsehwhere, this thing hasn't left my side since I got it.

BUT, I'm a meticulous fellow and I keep my things in incredibly fantastic shape.

I'm not about to let my $400 Strider rust. It just ain't gonna happen.

I carry it with me all the time, and unfortunately don't get to use my blades much. But you can bet that when I do have to use it, I want it to work. I know some surface rust isn't going to harm anything, but still...

I think I'll just keep using FP-10 or maybe get a tuf-cloth.

But I'll use this thing...don't you worry! :D
 
Some tufcloth would be a good idea.

I just regularly clean knives, then as soon as they are dry, oil them. With various oils that I have around. if you have some rust, get finest steel wool you an find(#0000 at wally world), pour/drip some oil on it, and use it to carefuly rub out rust spots. Have had that work on anything from highly polished guns to bead blasted knives.
 
Drjones,

I know exactly what you mean. My gunroom is like a surgical operatory; I have 20 year old guns with no dings. And certainly, my AR and SnG get fed the best oils, and they are touched up on an Edge-Pro.

My point is that sooner or later, this kind of knife 'earns' it's dings. I would address this rust issue (a good workman values his tools), but not at the expense of missing dinner or a good Packer game.

For example, for the next few weekends, my church has an outing in central Wisconsin they call 'Camp Meeting.' It's hundreds of people from all over the central USA; some in motor homes and individual shanties, and a lot of them in tents. I think my wife and I are going to truck camp; showers are provided. You can imagine the test of materials.

I'm taking my SnG and my new Buck Alpha Hunter. Both have been sharpened, both oiled, and mechanics rags and some spare CLP Breakfree will make the trip. But the 'trip' is the trip, this isn't an exercize in blade maintence. To be sure, I will be checking my pocket for a 400 dollar knife, and gravy gets wiped off before it returns to my pocket. The Buck will be loaned out for food preparation and it's expected to get a washing in a tub with other plates and who knows what kind of soap.

Care and being 'too careful' are as far apart as use and abuse.
 
Ichabod..interesting concept about care/ too careful vs. use/ abuse...I am chawin' on that:)


DRjones...I use mil tec, tuff cloth and oil on my Sng...it has gotten wet and gritty and still shows only use marks, no rust.
Great knives aren't they?:)
 
Here are some steel plates coated with different rust preventatives after 11 weeks in a 100 degree F/100% humidity chamber. Eezox appears prevent rust the best of the products tested.

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http://www.gunboards.com/forums/UltraBoard.cgi?action=Read&BID=5&TID=121681&SID=1262968
 
Now that's a great demonstration and endorsement.

Thanks Frank K. for the work you put into the project so others might know>

Have you researched a source that has a toll free # and will take credit card orders?:)

I googled eezox and found this interesting test on one of the sites:

"Time has passed and several companies sent products that they claimed would prevent rust. Here is the way I conducted my test. I used 12d nails that were throughly cleaned then labeled. Next each nail was coated with the product to be tested. Each was pushed into a block of styrofoam and left outdoors. I sprayed a saturated brine solution on the nails. My tests were severe and I got some surprises. I decided to repeat the test but without brine. Some products that made wild claims failed totally. The nails sprayed once with brine were tested for a month and the nails not coated with brine were tested for about three weeks. I got a very pleasant surprise when a friend gave me a small amount of an oil called Eezox. It was by far the best product tested."
Duncan Gilchrist Link here
 
I’m not the one who did those tests, they were done by an engineer named Jeff (screen name crufflerJJ over at gunboards), I just stumbled onto them a while back. If you are interested, check out the link to gunboards which I posted above (you can find the earlier threads on these tests by doing a search on crufflerJJ’s posts).


Here’s some “where to buy” info from Eezox’s website -


http://www.eezox.com/eezox_dealers.htm




- Frank
 
I went to that Eezox site.. looks good,,I'm sold on the stuff,, what kind do you recommend? the gun care one?
 
I use what was developed for the U.S. military as a corrosion protector for steel firearms, and what they have used for years... CLP (Break-free or other Mil-spec brands). Notice in the photo above that CLP is second to Eezox, and shows some definate corrosion protection. I don't want to eat it so I don't use it on knives I cut a lot of food with, or I wipe it off before cutting food then recoat later. This procedure is no different than what you do with a carbon steel pistol or rifle (i.e. wiping with CLP every so often).
 
I always used WD-40, works just fine.
I tried Tuf-Cloth, but I wan't satisified with its high price and mediocre performance (I know that it works great for others, but I had a bead-blasted Aus-6 knife rust after it came in contact with my sweat just a few hours after applying Tuf-Cloth on it).

By the way, a BFC search with the keywords "rust prevention" brought up 130 threads in case you want more information on this subject.
 
Originally posted by Quiet Storm
I always used WD-40, works just fine.
I tried Tuf-Cloth, but I wan't satisified with its high price and mediocre performance (I know that it works great for others, but I had a bead-blasted Aus-6 knife rust after it came in contact with my sweat just a few hours after applying Tuf-Cloth on it).

By the way, a BFC search with the keywords "rust prevention" brought up 130 threads in case you want more information on this subject.
Well, I'm glad WD-40 seems to work well for you, but you may really want to reconsider. WD is NOT a lubricant or protector. I understand it is marketed as such, but its just that; marketing.

Most people will agree that WD-40 has its uses, but protecting and lubricating are NOT among them.

Anyhow, I just bought a small bottle of Eezox for $3.50. I have searched various forums, and it is very highly acclaimed as a lubricant, cleaner, and especially as a rust preventor.

Oh, and that picture posted above pretty much sealed the deal. ;)
 
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