Need a stone I can use to regularly sharpen 154 CM

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I'm sure some of you remember my topic about double-edging a Leek, and I have actually asked this in that topic, but I never got a reply after a couple bumps, so I'm here making this specific topic.


http://www.knivesplus.com/dmtknifesharpener-dmt-d6cx.html


I had been recommended that^ stone for putting an edge on the Leek's backside, but now I'm going to put that on hold if necessary, and will be needing something that can sharpen 154 CM which will be the blade steel on my upcoming knife (Benchmade 42). I would be using it regularly, so I wouldn't need to have something to bring back an edge, just keep an edge nice and sharp.

Thanks much everyone!
 
I have really enjoyed the Razor Edge dry hones but nothing replaces my Edge Pro with the Japanese water stones.

STR
 
I believe the stones used in the EdgePro are all-American and made by Boride. Could well be wrong as being wrong is what I do.
 
I could have swore Ben told me they were Japanese water stones. You may be right though. Whatever they are they work.

STR
 
Well, habit, I've found a liking for my DMT fine and x-fine grits (red, 25 micron; green 9 micron IIRC). Maybe a Duosharp or the double sided folding DMT in those grits. Or even better, for a quick stroke or two after use a piece of plain leather with some type of stroppping compound. I'm not well versed on those, though. I have a piece of leather charged with mothers polish, but eventually I'm going to find something better I just don't know what. I know DMT has a diamond paste, maybe that... but I haven't heard anything one way or another on it.
 
Buck268 said:
Well, habit, I've found a liking for my DMT fine and x-fine grits (red, 25 micron; green 9 micron IIRC). Maybe a Duosharp or the double sided folding DMT in those grits. Or even better, for a quick stroke or two after use a piece of plain leather with some type of stroppping compound. I'm not well versed on those, though. I have a piece of leather charged with mothers polish, but eventually I'm going to find something better I just don't know what. I know DMT has a diamond paste, maybe that... but I haven't heard anything one way or another on it.
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DMT's site says for red: "Puts a razor edge on a regularly maintained tool", but all the DuoSharps are way out of my price range (I was hoping for $30-ish at the most)!

http://www.knivesplus.com/dmtknifesharpener-dmt-d6ef.html

How about that one?
 
Well I'll tell you first hand, the finish the red stone leaves is pretty rough. Yeah I suppose its sharp, but it doesn't like to push cut, those diamonds leave very nice microserrations. I almost always touch up on the red and then take a few swipes on the x-fine to clean up the edge a little, then maybe strop a little, maybe not.

Yeah, I meant the diasharp, all their names are so similar I get confused. I haven't used one with a continuous surface, so it may get clogged up easier than their regular stones, but the swarf tends to flush out really quick and easy with a little water, so I wouldn't really worry about it.

If you want an interupped surface, you could look into the double sided diafolds, they are in your price range.
 
Buck268 said:
Well I'll tell you first hand, the finish the red stone leaves is pretty rough. Yeah I suppose its sharp, but it doesn't like to push cut, those diamonds leave very nice microserrations. I almost always touch up on the red and then take a few swipes on the x-fine to clean up the edge a little, then maybe strop a little, maybe not.

Yeah, I meant the diasharp, all their names are so similar I get confused. I haven't used one with a continuous surface, so it may get clogged up easier than their regular stones, but the swarf tends to flush out really quick and easy with a little water, so I wouldn't really worry about it.

If you want an interupped surface, you could look into the double sided diafolds, they are in your price range.
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I don't know much about the differences of interrupted and uninterrupted surfaces... let me ask you, if you were gonna spend $30-ish on something to take care of keeping an edge, what would you get?

EDIT: That link I posted was a double sided one, with fine and extra fine sides (wait... I did post the link, right?).

http://www.knivesplus.com/dmtknifesharpener-dmt-d6ef.html
 
I'd go for a benchstone type of deal, since that is what I'm used to and good with. I think those diasharps will be more that fine, probably great; they seem like a great deal. And diamonds are great for the harder steels (made putting a new edge on my s30v spydie a pieceof cake!). I don't think you can go wrong either way, but IMHO the benchstones would be easier to work with than the folding ones and should do great. Unless you plan to pack it a lot for field use and such, then maybe the folding ones would be a better chioce.
 
Buck268 said:
I'd go for a benchstone type of deal, since that is what I'm used to and good with. I think those diasharps will be more that fine, probably great; they seem like a great deal. And diamonds are great for the harder steels (made putting a new edge on my s30v spydie a pieceof cake!). I don't think you can go wrong either way, but IMHO the benchstones would be easier to work with than the folding ones and should do great. Unless you plan to pack it a lot for field use and such, then maybe the folding ones would be a better chioce.
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So the one I linked wasn't a benchstone?

I plan on using it at home so I wouldn't want a folding one really, specially since the knife in 154 CM is gonna have a 4 inch blade, so I don't want the size constraints of the folding.
 
Buck268 said:
Well I'll tell you first hand, the finish the red stone leaves is pretty rough. Yeah I suppose its sharp, but it doesn't like to push cut, those diamonds leave very nice microserrations. I almost always touch up on the red and then take a few swipes on the x-fine to clean up the edge a little, then maybe strop a little, maybe not.

Yeah, I meant the diasharp, all their names are so similar I get confused. I haven't used one with a continuous surface, so it may get clogged up easier than their regular stones, but the swarf tends to flush out really quick and easy with a little water, so I wouldn't really worry about it.

If you want an interupped surface, you could look into the double sided diafolds, they are in your price range.
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The DMT red (I use the one with the interrupted surface) does leave a rather rough finish compared to my Spyderco ceramics, but as long as you minimize the burr you should still be able to shave easily and pushcut newsprint or the yellow pages, and it does keep a nice, agressive, toothy edge for slicing. I use my 100X lighted Radioshack microscope to check for burrs, and I think as long as you don't get burring you will be surprised at how good rough finishes can shave and pushcut newsprint.

Mike
 
Perhapse they pushcut better than I think, I only have a 10x loupe so there could be a tiny tiny burr I don't know about at times... In any case, those diasharps willbe just fine and yes they are like benchstones. Don't worry so much the fine/x-fine will be great for maintaining your edge. And if you ever need to do heavier work you can always pick up some wet/dry sandpaper for well under $5 at the hardware store!
 
Buck268 said:
Perhapse they pushcut better than I think, I only have a 10x loupe so there could be a tiny tiny burr I don't know about at times... In any case, those diasharps willbe just fine and yes they are like benchstones. Don't worry so much the fine/x-fine will be great for maintaining your edge. And if you ever need to do heavier work you can always pick up some wet/dry sandpaper for well under $5 at the hardware store!
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So then I should get this one:

http://www.knivesplus.com/dmtknifesharpener-dmt-d6ef.html

?
 
They're thin, thus sit low on a table surface. Do you hold it in your hand or set it on something?
 
I put it at the edge of the table, or on top of some books, so the thickness isn't a problem.
 
habit,

I think the DiaSharp F/EF would be a great stone. Just remember with Diamonds, they're a little aggressive new, but will quickly settle in. You may want to sharpen a practice knife first to help break them in.

You can get a stone holder, or just put it on a piece of wood with a non-skid pad in between, to give it some clearance.

STR / Thom,

The Edge Pro stones are made by Boride. I think the confusion comes because they use water, and their finish seems to be a bit finer than their 'rating'.

Thom,

Woodcraft has a 'mini-hone' that I think uses that same stone as the minisharp?

http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=5910

I got a flyer in the mail that the 'kit' with all three goes on sale starting 3/4 for 14.99. Makes 'em only $5 each. Just an FYI.
 
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