Need an alternative for the discontinued Spyderco Whale Rescue Blade

That is too bad Spyderco can't sacrifice a little profit to help you out. As much as they talk about shiny footprints and all.
 
No, but maybe they should keep raising prices and stick to MAP. You don't think they could make some in all the countries they use to cut cost? No one says they shouldn't make a profit.

Follow what Sal says and you would think they actually care about their customers.
 
Is it possible to request a bulk order from a knife maker or machinist if you need a mass number of blades?
 
JeffDavid said:
There are a few possibilities there. Thanks for the advise!
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I think you'll find that a pruning saw is in no way similar to a serrated knife blade. A pruning saw blade is quite thin and flexible, will bend and kink easily and will snap off if too much twisting force is applied. The saw teeth are designed to cut wood, not cloth or any other fibrous material. They will shred, pull and clog with many types of cloth. In addition, many of the good pruning saws are designed to cut in one direction. All of my Silky blades are pull cut, trying to force a push cut usually ends up bending the blade. Also, its quite hard if not impossible to sharpen some of those saw blades. Some are just hardened saw steel and can be touched up with a feather file, but the better ones that are impulse hardened and you can't do much with them.
 
Arathol said:
I think you'll find that a pruning saw is in no way similar to a serrated knife blade. A pruning saw blade is quite thin and flexible, will bend and kink easily and will snap off if too much twisting force is applied. The saw teeth are designed to cut wood, not cloth or any other fibrous material. They will shred, pull and clog with many types of cloth. In addition, many of the good pruning saws are designed to cut in one direction. All of my Silky blades are pull cut, trying to force a push cut usually ends up bending the blade. Also, its quite hard if not impossible to sharpen some of those saw blades. Some are just hardened saw steel and can be touched up with a feather file, but the better ones that are impulse hardened and you can't do much with them.
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Weird.

All, and I do mean all of the pole saws I use have feature triangular teeth that cut on the push and the draw. Just lucky out here I guess.
 
Danke42 said:
Weird.

All, and I do mean all of the pole saws I use have feature triangular teeth that cut on the push and the draw. Just lucky out here I guess.
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Not really all that weird if you think about it. The blades are very thin, and doing a push cut can easily bend the blade. I thought it was odd at first too, but when you actually pay attention to the rhythm of the cut you realize you are actually not cutting much at all anyway on the push stroke, especially on a long saw like a Sugoi or a Hayate. You don't want to break a blade on a Hayate either, as they are very expensive....If you ever used a two man cross cut you know how this works....Two people, one on each end, each pulling in opposite directions to make the cut. One guy pulls but the other doesn't push, he just hangs on when the saw is pulled. Pushing absolutely flexes the blade and slows or stops the cut.
 
Arathol said:
Not really all that weird if you think about it. The blades are very thin, and doing a push cut can easily bend the blade. I thought it was odd at first too, but when you actually pay attention to the rhythm of the cut you realize you are actually not cutting much at all anyway on the push stroke, especially on a long saw like a Sugoi or a Hayate. You don't want to break a blade on a Hayate either, as they are very expensive....If you ever used a two man cross cut you know how this works....Two people, one on each end, each pulling in opposite directions to make the cut. One guy pulls but the other doesn't push, he just hangs on when the saw is pulled. Pushing absolutely flexes the blade and slows or stops the cut.
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Like I said weird. Never had to fix a blade that an employee broke but had to fix a lot of poles they wrecked. Maybe it's a unique to my hemisphere problem.
 
Perhaps you could file serrations in a scythe blade. It would be the same size and shape as a whale knife. You might even be able to find serrated scythe blades.
 
Danke42 said:
Sure. Just show up with a dumptruck full of money.

That's something these guys probably don't have though.
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How do they get the blades they have now? Do they pull them out of thin air? Or do they purchase them with a department budget?
Are they required to buy their own?

The Whale Rescue is made of H1 steel and has no handle. There are makers here who sell beautifully crafted knives with handles and sheaths for less than what the Whale Rescue retails for. Who's to say something like that couldn't be made with a more cost effective tool steel for a lower price?

I'm just saying. If the solution is a pruning saw why didn't OP just go to the hardware store?
 
lieferung said:
How do they get the blades they have now? Do they pull them out of thin air? Or do they purchase them with a department budget?
Are they required to buy their own?

The Whale Rescue is made of H1 steel and has no handle. There are makers here who sell beautifully crafted knives with handles and sheaths for less than what the Whale Rescue retails for. Who's to say something like that couldn't be made with a more cost effective tool steel for a lower price?

I'm just saying. If the solution is a pruning saw why didn't OP just go to the hardware store?
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Some people live in places where they never have to think about pruning tall trees. I'm in a Temperate Humid area with lots of big fir, pine, cedar and hemlock but less than an hour's drive you're in hot sandy places with rattlers and nothing but sagebrush. I wouldn't have any idea how folks in Florida deal with the vegetation there.

These guys naturally have a budget but at the same time what makes more sense. Commissioning a custom run of sawtooth knives at $500 a piece? Scrounging up Whale Rescue blades at $200 a piece? Or using a pole saw blade at $50 each? Unless the unamed smith is donating time and materials you'll not get a custom run for less than mass production.
 
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