need help blending blade and handle on a thick chef's knife

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Hi all,

Newbie here, and I need some help blending the blade with the handle on a thick chef's knife.

First, what I hope is relevant information.

* I'm working with 1/8" 440C flat stock, and while I'm getting better at the flat grind, the area around the heel and finger guard - or ricasso, not quite the proper term - is problematic.

* I'd like the transition from blade to handle to be smoother - invisible, actually - but I keep getting severe, obvious angles.

(That grind, btw, was done on a work rest against an unmodified platen. I recently put a 1/16" radius on the edges of the platen and gained better results, but I still don't like it.)

* I also tried to blend that area free-hand with an 8" contact wheel. The result - a subtle, convex "C" shape like one might find on a commercial Wustoff - was better and a bit more pleasing to the eye, but I still don't like it.

Note: This doesn't seem to be a problem with the convex grind. I can slither around in the slack part of the belt and make it go away, but I'd rather be able to do both.

Second, some guesses.

* I should work with thinner steel. The transition from blade to handle won't be nearly as apparent if I use 3/32" or 1/16" flat stock. (However, I've got a load of 1/8" and I can't let it all become scrap. :-))

* I should work with thinner steel - it makes a better, more functional kitchen knife. Roger that.

* Perhaps I'm wedded to a transitional angle or radius with the thick stuff? (J. Neilson from Wyalusing, PA seems to have accomplished this with genuine success as seen in the pic
jneilsonknives
.)

* I am somewhat limited by the 2" contact wheel I have on my grinder? Does a small-wheel attachment make sense or should I just use the modified platen to rework the finger guard/heel angle?

Any intel?

Thanks,

- J
 
Thanks, I'll give that a shot too.

Sorry about the photo. Linked to the url as the site told me to when I tried to insert an image but no dice I guess. Any known problems with the Chrome browser?

(Trying again here.
kit-utility-52100.jpg
)
 
Okay, so the image showed up this time.

Anyway. The area I'm talking about is that ever so slight "crease" between his name and the bolster. So to hand sand that - wrap the sand paper around a slightly rounded wooden block or maybe one of those small, brick-shaped erasers?
 
FWIW, the technical term for that is the "plunge," I believe. And yes, a hard sanding block with the appropriate radius that you want to refine the plunge line should work for cleaning those up. I'm pretty sure NickWheeler and a few others have some good WIP's with the process laid out. For that matter, Nick has a great hand sanding WIP about polishing.
 
Thanks much for the advice, bldsmth and crimsonfalcon07.

Likewise for the clarification on terminology, crimsonfalcon07. People seemed to use "plunge" in different contexts and I didn't understand what they meant. Plus I'm new and getting my head around things.

Will report the results.
 
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