Need help identifying steel type.

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Well after making crude knifes/dirks And arrow heads from lawn mower blades/sheet metal and any other crappy metal I could find laying around on the side of the road.. even a small pen knife with an A2 3 inch bolt with a broken head. My next project... > A Knife from some old fiskars pruners I found in someones trash.. they we're pretty rusty as far as I could see, other then the black coating on the tool [spotted, mostly rubbed off] It actually looks like its still in good shape. now before I run off and ruin an perfectly good, old. Pair of pruners to attempt at making another crude DIY knife.[they actually just needed some replacement bolts/cleaning up]

Assuming its rusting/was [light rust not enough to make deep holes in the metal.] I assume its a low quality stainless steel, or not even stainless steel. [considering it had a black coating at some time.] Any idea what type of steel it could be?
 
You are asking an impossible to answer question in this forum. Why not send the question off to Fiskars? Frank
 
Great first post on Bladeforums! LOL, fiskarsforum.com, the guys there can ID those pruners you have, and get you a re-heat treat schedule, should be able to do it using your BBQ!
Anyhow goodluck with that arrowhead,knifethingy....and by the way 1084 makes great knife steel and CHEAP!

LOL:eek:
 
Since you filled out your profile ( sort of) I'll tell you what you need. It is an internet analyzer. It looks a lot like an old fashioned floppy disk drive with a smaller slot. You put the metal in it and it scans the molecules. That will allow you to post a scan and we can tell you what the steel is. They are hard to find, but some ebay and Craig's list searching may score one.
Seriously, there is almost no way the steel is likely to be good for a knife. Get a piece of knife steel and make your knife from that.



OK, now that that is done, please fill out your profile with a real age and occupation ( student is not a bad thing). This type of real and good info is a large part of what makes the folks here do the things I mention in the next paragraph.


Here is how many new makers get a great knife from their first project:
Make some drawings of your knife plan and post them in a new thread, along with the methods and equipment you plan on using to make the knife. The folks here will help you refine the plans, and most likely some maker near you, or even far away, will offer to send a piece of knife steel to you for the project. If your attitude and willingness to learn is good, other offers like help with the HT and a shop visit to a nearby knifemaker often follow.

If you haven't done so yet, read all the stickies. There is a wealth of info in them about making knives and getting started. It also will tell you that the shears are not likely to be any good.
 
Since you filled out your profile ( sort of) I'll tell you what you need. It is an internet analyzer. It looks a lot like an old fashioned floppy disk drive with a smaller slot. You put the metal in it and it scans the molecules. That will allow you to post a scan and we can tell you what the steel is. They are hard to find, but some ebay and Craig's list searching may score one.
Seriously, there is almost no way the steel is likely to be good for a knife. Get a piece of knife steel and make your knife from that.



OK, now that that is done, please fill out your profile with a real age and occupation ( student is not a bad thing). This type of real and good info is a large part of what makes the folks here do the things I mention in the next paragraph.


Here is how many new makers get a great knife from their first project:
Make some drawings of your knife plan and post them in a new thread, along with the methods and equipment you plan on using to make the knife. The folks here will help you refine the plans, and most likely some maker near you, or even far away, will offer to send a piece of knife steel to you for the project. If your attitude and willingness to learn is good, other offers like help with the HT and a shop visit to a nearby knifemaker often follow.

If you haven't done so yet, read all the stickies. There is a wealth of info in them about making knives and getting started. It also will tell you that the shears are not likely to be any good.

Who said I wasn't a professional slacker? :)
No, I'm not a student, I'm currently saving up money to go to school/apprenticeship for machining.
I didn't do good in highschool, ended up dropping out, and getting a GED that same year as I dropped out.
Been out of school for awhile. Haven't had the funds to really do much, just been messing around with what I have.
I was taking an apprenticeship in woodworking from a family friend, but he passed away. From there on It kinda hit home, and I just started building what I could from people's junk, because lack of funds. Never the less, I mowed lawns/carried Christmas trees/worked in retail, all of it didn't last long as it was only temp jobs.

I did read the stickies, and have done my own fair work on the good ol google. Trying to build up my tool arsenal, but as some know, its very pricey for even "Decent" tools. and the bills don't pay themselves.

Back to what I was asking, I'll see what they say on the forums. Metal's metal, some works better then others, but they can all cut, or slice, or chop. It's a matter of folding/bending/cracking. Not everyone needs to have top tier metal on the market, best of the best. some of us can only keep scarp/crap metal, so that's what we use.
 
Steel really is cheap. Youll spend more on sand paper and files than you will steel so might as well come out with a far superior product for your time. If you have to use scrap, stick to stuff you know can be hardened. Files and such.
 
Dude, get over how cool you think you are, get over to njsteelbaron.com, invest 20 bucks on a 4 foot bar of 1084 so you are starting with a known steel alloy that is simple to heat treat, buy a new sharp file and a hacksaw and you will be all set to get started making knives

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Dude, get over how cool you think you are, get over to njsteelbaron.com, invest 20 bucks on a 4 foot bar of 1084 so you are starting with a known steel alloy that is simple to heat treat, buy a new sharp file and a hacksaw and you will be all set to get started making knives

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Ouch, first of all. How cool I think I am? Where did that come up from? Please do simply explain..

Second of all, If you think insulting me, then throwing a sales pitch at me is gonna work, you have something else coming for you!

Third, and finally, I actually Don't plan to stick in the steel world for very long. I would enjoy making knifes.. and such. But I'm the type of person that when people say "no it can't be done!" Will do it anyway, failure or not. There for. when I get my finances figured out. and can get some high-tech equipment. I plan on moving to copper alloys [Brass/Bronze.] when I finally have everything to safely make Arsenical bronze I plan to.

Sorry if I sound ignorant/arrogant I suppose I'll learn with time..
 
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