Need help with an emerson cq-7 flipper

Basp2005 said:
You know how YouTube works, you know the words "cut test". Did you think to enter those words into YouTube to see how a cut test works. Good luck. If serious you will never be satisfied with normal knives. Of course then you'll buy a rockstead and proceed to hack at some pvc.
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I am sure for 3800 bucks that would do the trick :)
 
sifu128 said:
I was trying to test the edge of the blade. Towards the end of the video might have been more of a waste of time / frustration. I do not know how to sharpen a knife professional. I have seem some videos and also researched the Lanski sharpening kit.
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Fair enough. Relax, calm down, take a deep breath and try the advice you got from the fellows here already. Look into the sharpmaker and good old fasioned bench stones.

Ive got many of the systems. Started with the lansky many many years ago. Still use the sharpmaker, and stones...lansky got retired.
 
You were very inflammatory in both your thread title and wordage of the OP. When your first post on a forum is a bashing of a knife company and includes a link to a video that most people are not going to watch, it tends to make you look quite a bit like someone only out for attention.

I didn't click on the video, I can gather enough about it from the other comments here.
 
KingMC said:
You were very inflammatory in both your thread title and wordage of the OP. When your first post on a forum is a bashing of a knife company and includes a link to a video that most people are not going to watch, it tends to make you look quite a bit like someone only out for attention.

I didn't click on the video, I can gather enough about it from the other comments here.
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I am beyond frustrated and I am sure I could have worded the title a bit better. I am here just looking for some help.
 
KingMC said:
You were very inflammatory in both your thread title and wordage of the OP. When your first post on a forum is a bashing of a knife company and includes a link to a video that most people are not going to watch, it tends to make you look quite a bit like someone only out for attention.

I didn't click on the video, I can gather enough about it from the other comments here.
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...And in all of the initial responses, even those that roughly stated the same thing that he ultimately responded "fair enough" to.

If you were being sincere, I apologize for my tone. It seemed absolutely like a direct and plain attempt at trolling - so much so that I literally had no doubt.
 
jbmonkey said:
Fair enough. Relax, calm down, take a deep breath and try the advice you got from the fellows here already. Look into the sharpmaker and good old fasioned bench stones.

Ive got many of the systems. Started with the lansky many many years ago. Still use the sharpmaker, and stones...lansky got retired.
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So question. With a type of knife with this angle will it be somewhat easy to sharpen in the future? What would your recommendation be for a chisel cut? I did try to get a diamond sharpener (handheld) and it did scratch it. The lanski looks like it is pretty easy to use on any knife.
 
sifu128 said:
So question. With a type of knife with this angle will it be somewhat easy to sharpen in the future? What would your recommendation be for a chisel cut? I did try to get a diamond sharpener (handheld) and it did scratch it. The lanski looks like it is pretty easy to use on any knife.
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Yeah i saw those scratches on your video. Tons of info on the pros and cons of all the systems and info on freehand sharpening without a system. No need to rehash it all here. Search engine is your friend.

I use the sharpmaker to touch up on my dozen or so emersons. Not exactly free hand, but i angle my hand to match the edge sometimes use a sharpie marker to see where the stone is hitting if im having a bad day. Then angle my hand to knock off the burr on the other side, then stropping. Since you are sharpening only 1 edge on the chisel. The sharpmaker is setup for 30 and 40 degrees but the chisel is only one edge, so i just adjust the angle i hold the knife on the 40 total or 20 degree per side side. Remember most of these knives have a microbevel so hitting the very edge at the right angle is crucial to sharp or not sharp.

Emerson has a very good section and explanation on his site on chisels and so much knowledge here to read. Take your time. Practice on cheap knives before you destroy your high dollar ones. Good luck and welcome.
 
Comeuppance said:
...And in all of the initial responses, even those that roughly stated the same thing that he ultimately responded "fair enough" to.

If you were being sincere, I apologize for my tone. It seemed absolutely like a direct and plain attempt at trolling - so much so that I literally had no doubt.
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I really am. I am frustrated and looking for help. I am not looking to troll or cause problems, just want to learn and be pointed in the right direction and that is why I came here in the first place.
 
jbmonkey said:
Yeah i saw those scratches on your video. Tons of info on the pros and cons ofnall the systems and info on freehand sharpening without a system. No need to rehash it all here. Search engine is yoir friend.

I use the sharpmaker to touch up on my dozen or so emersons. Not exactly free hand, but i angle my hand to match the edge sometimes use a sharpie marker to see where the stone is hitting if im having a bad day. Then angle my hand to knock off the burr ok the other side, then stropping. Since you are sharpening only 1 edge on the chisel. The sharpmaker is setup for 30 and 40 degrees but the chisel is only one edge, so i just adjust the angle i hold the knife on the 40 total or 20 degree per side side. Remember most of these knives have a microbevel so hitting the very edge at the right angle is crucial to sharp or not sharp.

Emerson has a very good section and explanation on his site on chisels and so much knowledge here to read. Take your time. Practice on cheap knives before you destroy your high dollar ones. Good luck and welcome.
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I just watched the Spyderco video and Sal has a very great explanation on how to use the Sharpmaker and even mentioned using step 3 for chisel knives. Thank you VERY much for your patients and time and educating me jb!
 
Coloring the edge in with a sharpie will really help you learn. You can't sharpen correctly if you're not hitting the edge or if you're wavering on and off of it. I like green.

When you do get a sharpener such as the Sharpmaker, be sure to look at the angles and study the space between the stone and the spine of the knife when using it. When you move to freehand sharpening or stropping, you will begin to mimic that space as a reference, which in turn will help you hold the correct angle.
 
Yeah its very frustrating starting out. Im a slow learner so I was very frustrated and struggled badly. Kept thinking i was doing everything right but obviously i wasnt. Finally stepped away for a while had a biscuit to calm my nerves and steady my hands and kept reading and trying. When you finally get it.....it will be like an eureka moment. Its not a one day or 1 week process. I imagine some get it fast but for me it was many months of practice, reading, practice. Over and over.

Then you run into things like top tier steels that make things slower and harder and wire burrs that make the knife feel very sharp but when you cut anything besides paper the burr bends over and knife is dull. Factory edges that are different angles across the blade that require reprofiling and on and on. The good news is every issue youll ever run into is on this site with good advice and solutions.

One request. Seeing how Mr. Emerson "sponsors" a subforum here and generously donates his time once in awhile to talk with us and help us.....it would be awfully nice if you change the title of this thread to something nicer...but just a request.
 
Jsega51 said:
Coloring the edge in with a sharpie will really help you learn. You can't sharpen correctly if you're not hitting the edge or if you're wavering on and off of it. I like green.

When you do get a sharpener such as the Sharpmaker, be sure to look at the angles and study the space between the stone and the spine of the knife when using it. When you move to freehand sharpening or stropping, you will begin to mimic that space as a reference, which in turn will help you hold the correct angle.
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Thank You!
 
The Lansky is a economic way to start out. Get both the regular stones and the diamonds. Use the regular stones until you have some sense of what you're doing, then graduate to the diamonds. The diamonds will take off a lot more steel with too much pressure applied.
A chisel grind is a very useful style of blade to have. You have to learn to use it correctly for it to perform like it's supposed to. The key is keeping the flat side flat and not putting an angle on it. Tape the flat side down to the edge, it will prevent you from scratching it up. Remember it's a zero grind and the burr will have to be taken off free handed.
Go to your local hardware store and buy a wood chisel. That will give you a good idea how a chisel grind works and you can practice sharpening the wood chisel. Remember, the wood chisel is a lot harder steel than knives.
 
sifu128, I moved this to our subforum for sharpening. Two suggestions. One, search for threads on chisel grind. Two, practice on a more disposable knife. Maybe pick up a Mora and an Opinel. Once you get a feel for these simpler grinds, then try your skills on the chisel grind
 
Esav Benyamin said:
sifu128, I moved this to our subforum for sharpening. Two suggestions. One, search for threads on chisel grind. Two, practice on a more disposable knife. Maybe pick up a Mora and an Opinel. Once you get a feel for these simpler grinds, then try your skills on the chisel grind
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Thank you very much for the help and suggestions!!
 
jbmonkey said:
Yeah its very frustrating starting out. Im a slow learner so I was very frustrated and struggled badly. Kept thinking i was doing everything right but obviously i wasnt. Finally stepped away for a while had a biscuit to calm my nerves and steady my hands and kept reading and trying. When you finally get it.....it will be like an eureka moment. Its not a one day or 1 week process. I imagine some get it fast but for me it was many months of practice, reading, practice. Over and over.

Then you run into things like top tier steels that make things slower and harder and wire burrs that make the knife feel very sharp but when you cut anything besides paper the burr bends over and knife is dull. Factory edges that are different angles across the blade that require reprofiling and on and on. The good news is every issue youll ever run into is on this site with good advice and solutions.

One request. Seeing how Mr. Emerson "sponsors" a subforum here and generously donates his time once in awhile to talk with us and help us.....it would be awfully nice if you change the title of this thread to something nicer...but just a request.
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jb - THANK YOU for your suggestion on the spyderco sharpening kit. I got it in yesterday, watched all of the instructional videos by the owner. I took my time with each of my knifes (which felt like an eternity). I was able to get all 3 of my knives (including the emerson) to the point where they can shave hair off of my car and even slice some paper without cutting through it. I really appreciate the suggestion!
 
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