Need Mosin Nagant Opinions

The MN safety isn't that bad. The trick is don't think that it's some kind of "flick with a finger" deal. Place the butt in the crook of the elbow to brace and turn it, or get a good grip on the gun with your off hand, grasp the safety, and use your major muscle groups to turn it.

Another thing shooters often do (I'm assuming you're carrying it hunting or something where the safety might be a factor), is to load the magazine and hold the topr round down a little and close the bolt on an empty chamber. With the firing pin cocked like this, the bolt is easy to open and load a round quietly when the time comes.

If you're just getting a collection of them, the safety doesn't really matter.

MNs are my favorite field rifles and I use them almost exclusively to hunt these days. Like anything else, you have to decide to work with it, rather than make it conform to how you are used to doing things.
 
In my, not-so-very-reliable, opinion...

The Mosin-Nagant does not have a safety. :( It has a capacity-reduction design. I carry four rounds in the magazine when walking and chamber a round when approaching a point at which I may be shooting.

Tom, with your resources at work, you should be easily able to get a simple fix for that absurdly difficult knurled knob safety.

At one time a guy was selling them on eBay. I didn't check today.

It is virtually a replica of the K31 ring on the bolt. Take the bolt apart, weld the ring on, put it back together, and you NOW can insert finger, pull while pushing forward on the stock, and do what should be the simple half-turn to put the rifle in safety.

Again, in my opinion, the safety is the greatest short-coming of a great rifle design.

YMMV



Kis
enjoy every sandwich
 
I saw a guy on gunbroken who was offering extended knobs and the safety ring. yeah, guys at work always owe me favors.

yes, the design is what it is. We make it work for us.

I hope to put some stuff up on gunbroken tonight. I may have our office manager order me a MN this week.

Take care,

Tom
 
mosins are way fun... speaking of the safety pull ring thingy
here it is on my sporterized m44 :)


and my m38, 91/30 & finn m39 :D




they are so cheap and affordable to shoot (at the moment) everyone should have a mosin... or a few
 
CP,

That's what I would do, if I were to use one. (But why would I? I have a sporterized 1903, and .35 Whelens in Remington 7600 and Territorial Gunsmiths Montana 1999 action flavors.)

I don't know where you hunt, if you do, but I've had to take some really quick shots here in the Southeast. That extra second or so can make a big difference.

If hunting were on my mind, I'd do better with a Single-Shot Handi-Rifle, and if cheap ammo were important, I could go for the 7.62x39mm version.
 
I have my Number 1 for hunting. I have an Ishapore 2A1 also.

I have some friends up here, who like shooting, or would like it, but don't do much of it. While they are concerned about the future, they are not in the same frame of mind as i am. I plan on getting them out to shoot some 22 rimfires this spring. It will likely be difficult for them to be presuaded that they need to buy a centerfire rifle. I hope to acquire a few MN's and some ammo, and eventually get these guys try them out, and get them at least somewhat familiar with them. If ever the need arises, in any way, for them to need a rifle, at least they will not be starting from nowhere. And I will have a couple to let a few friends use. Maybe someday I will need to barter with someone. Maybe they will need a rifle and a few hundred rounds of ammo.

I will get dies, and work up some cast bullet loads, so the initial experience doesn't blow then away too much.

Those are the root reasons underneath all this. That, and the money is so tight, as always.

There you go!

Thanks for all the cool pics!

Tom
 
I'll give another vote for MN's in general, and the Finns in particular. I have a 1941 VKT M39, and a 1954(I believe) Type 53 (the Chicom version of the M44). M39 is completely stock, with exception of rubber butt pad, the Type 53 has stock cut down, bayonet lug removed, rubber butt pad, and maybe something else. I can't remember, and it's back in the states.

These things are a ton of fun to shoot, the fireball on the carbine in particular is great. The M39 is extremely accurate too, a lot more accurate than I can actually shoot.

The round itself is interesting too, for a nerd like me. 7.62x54R(7.62x53R in Finland), is the oldest common issue round stillb eing used today, since the .303 British is no longer being issued. The round has been in use for over 115 years, and made in something like 20+(30+?) countries. Enough variations on rounds, country, etc, that you can make a large effort just collecting variations on ammo. Last I checked, I think I had 22 different varieties of ammo, milsurp and current commercial production, and I always keep my eyes out for more. This doesn't include countries where I have same round (light ball, heavy ball, whatever) with different headstamps from different ammunition factories, or different year stamps.
 
The knob on back is a quasi-safety.

Pull it out and turn it. It will catch and stay out, effectively on safe. It is under pressure so it isn't easy.

YMMV
 
Thanks for the Link Kis.

:)

My stuff on gunbroker is up high enough to allow me to order two M44 excellent condition matching carbines.

I'll let you know.

take care,

Tom
 
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