Need some 3/4" thick Nickel Silver

Mark, I believe it was but that was before he made the new burner. The type castings he's doing he needs burner to aim at what he's working on. I won't go any further into it since I don't know squat about casting. Just thought if you run into a snag Bruce would be more than willing to give you some advice.
 
You guys be careful not to contaminate your forges with that stuff.
Nickel silver is about 78% brass, which has copper in it.

Some that have done this in their regular forges, were unable to pattern weld after. Had to rebuild.:eek:
 
I'm interested in finding out more about whether or not copper will contaminate a forge. I'm getting a new forge soon for blade work but I also do some copper work. It would be convenient if I could melt copper in the forge. I've heard some say that it contaminates it (cant' weld after melting copper) but I don't think I've ever heard from anyone with first hand experience. I have also heard people say that they put copper in the forge without any ill effects. I believe I've heard this from people with first hand knowledge, but I'm not positive.

Anyone out there ever experienced this one way or another?
 
I'd like the answer to that also. Is it copper, is it brass (copper+zinc)? Is it heating the metal, is it melting the metal ? Zinc is volatile , is that the problem? Let's have some scientific answers.
 
I'm told copper will bother welding but not seen it.
but I have seen layers tied together with
automotive insulated wire which is copper
and seen no problems welding at that time or after?
I would think if anything was left there it would
get burned out anyway. just my 2 cents
 
Originally posted by wardn1
I'm interested in finding out more about whether or not copper will contaminate a forge. I'm getting a new forge soon for blade work but I also do some copper work. It would be convenient if I could melt copper in the forge. I've heard some say that it contaminates it (cant' weld after melting copper) but I don't think I've ever heard from anyone with first hand experience. I have also heard people say that they put copper in the forge without any ill effects. I believe I've heard this from people with first hand knowledge, but I'm not positive.

Anyone out there ever experienced this one way or another?


There were two people that I know(from the forums) that had this happen to them.
One of them had been warned about this by fitzo(Mike Fitzgerald), and disregarded the info, the other posted on the Ed Caffrey forum at CKD, about it happening to him too.

I'm no expert on this problem, but do know it happens.

Another thing you don't want copper or brass in, is your ferric chloride. It will contaminate that almost instantly.:eek:
 
Copper can contaminate welds, and will. Someone check ont he zinc content in NS as the zinc will burn at a very low temp, and you cna see this as a green flame from the molten metal. Zinc in a gas form is deadly poisonous, so if you do try melting anything with zinc in it I suggest that you do it outside.

The furnace I described previously can be outfitted with a propane burner, and you can find some info on it at www.backyardmetalcasting.com . This kid is sharp and has good links to others who have built propane burners for their furnaces.

If your propane burner will heat your forge to welding temps then it will heat more than hot enough to cast with. The lindsay books link I left has some books on propane furnacce burners as well.

I have seen someone post links to dealers in casting materials as well as the supplies to line the furnace.

I am using some of the clay sand mix I used for the furnace liner for sand casting, but have heard that you can use plaster of paris to make molds in as well. I think you have to cook it off first to drive the water out of it, and preheat it before the pour. Plaster is cheap though and for experimentation it should be the ticket. If you can carve it in wood, you can cast it in metal.

www.ray-vin.com has some interesting information about casting in several types of media, and mold making techniques.

Pendative, I caught your post and will answer it tonight. Most of my information is on my home box. Will help out any way I can.

Doc
 
www.riogrande.com carries Casting grains in: silver, gold, various bronzes including white bronze, nickel silver, and pewter.

They also carry casting flux and just about any other casting supply you can think of including melting crucibles and both cuttlefish bone and Delft clay for making molds.

BTW - the Nickel silver grains they supply melt at 2300F and flows at 2400F. The white bronze melts at 1650F and the flowpoint is 1850F.
 
At 2400 degrees I am positive I can generate enoughheat with charcoal and a blow dryer to melt the stuff.

www.budgetcastingsupply.com (I think this is the right link) has alot of the casting materials, but I am not sure what they have.

Thanks for the link Wild! That will come in handy for future stuff.

Doc
 
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