Need Specific Ganzaa Procedure Information

Balislinger

Balislinger

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OK, seems like there's confusion on a couple points. Would love it if we could clear them up.

1) There's conflicting info on whether Busse goes by the order of the emails in their inbox or by the time stamp on emails. Someone remembers Busse posting that they go with the order in their inbox, but Amy posted that they go by the TIME those emails arrive on their computers. Which is it? And that second point about the time brings up an important question. Does their computer work like mine in that it preserves the time stamp of the sender, regardless of the receiving computer's clock? That would make the time stamp of the emails all over the map, regardless of inbox order, even once they have arrived on the Busse computer. On the other hand, maybe their computer actually uses its own clock to stamp incoming mail, but I've never seen that, and don't know if a computer can be programmed to do that.

2) I'm also seeing confusion about whether the automatic go would be in effect if 9:55 hit and Jerry had not yet posted, and the forums are open. The directions are unclear on this. If that had happened, I bet alot of folks would have fired off their emails at 9:55, and others waited that last 5 minutes to see if Jerry was waiting to post. Would those that send at 9:55 with forums open and no Jerry post jump the gun?

Another similar scenario is that the forums are open, but bogging down, and you can't refresh quickly enough to see if Jerry posted between 9:53 and 9:55. This could fall under "you not being able to get on and see if Jerry posted" under the official instructions, making you eligible for automatic go, but who knows if auto go would be in effect at all if other people can get on the forum.

For future Ganzaas, and to make clearer instructions, it would be nice to settle these once and for all, so we know what the rules are.
 
jerry posted the go and stuck it at 9:53:07 pm, the 9:55:00 never happened because jerry posted before that time.

i had a "live feed" right at jerry's server and saw him set his glass down and send the pre typed thread.

BTW, don't miss the ganza TONIGHT AT 9:30 PM. it promises to be a good one.


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Timestamp of the RECEIVED side will automatically make it in order of receipt at Busse, yes?

Why would you use sender's time stamp? I could send mine 3 hours later but own my own ISP and futz with my time-log and assure being in the front of the line.

You've got to consider the variability of the Internets. Faster connections rule. Bigger ISP's rule. Closer to Wauxon-Wauxoff, OH rules.
 
Dennis in MA said:
Closer to Wauxon-Wauxoff, OH rules.
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Hope that is true. :D

1. I assumed it is the order in Amy's in-box, after some time zero that Jerry has declared.

2. I was getting nervous as we approached 9:55pm, wondered about this same point. Worst case: send at 9:55:01, then if Jerry post a Go after that, send again. There is no penalty for early emailification, it is just ignored.
 
I wonder if anybody has ever set up a script to send their order once every 30 seconds until they see the GO in the forum. Would guarantee an early order for the message dated after the GO. Would piss Amy off, but sounds like it's not against the rules, and would be mighty HOGgish behavior!
 
Jaxx said:
Early emails do not disqualify you... Just THAT EMAIL. :) Know what I mean?
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So does that mean I can prep 2-300 emails and just start sending them every 10-15 seconds at the start of the ganza witout following it on the forum? :confused:
It was my understanding that if you fired an early email it put you at the end of the line and basically took you out of the ganza.
 
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From what I've heard, Jaxx is right. Early emails don't hurt you unless you sent it early and never sent another one. If you correct your mistake, your email sent after the Ganzaa go still counts in its usual order. Under this scenario, you could, technically, send an email every 15 seconds, but something tells me that Amy would stick you at the very back of the line herself, and maybe keep you there :eek:

But that has little to do with my 2 original questions. If you ask me, I'm gonna guess that Busse actually does not use the time on the email, but rather the order in their inbox. To those who say they are the same, consider that some computers (like mine) preserve the sender's time stamp, rather than apply a "received" time. But that's a guess.

As for my second question, it would be good to clear up before the next Ganzaa, and include in the detailed instructions to avoid confusion. If the auto go time has arrived, and you have not seen Jerry post because you can't refresh quickly enough, but the forum is open, is it a go? Is 9:55 a go no matter what, even if the forums are open? Or does Jerry have till 10pm to post?
 
vicki and i have done two ganza's for the company store.

moments before we post the "go" thread i empty both our email in boxes. first email first served, we just sort by date and time received.

people out west usually have to be a couple of nano seconds faster because of a very short lag time. i for one use my son's connection because i'm dsl out in the sticks and he's 7.4 jigawatts with a flux capacitor booster and lives next door to busse, plus i get to drink his booze.


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forager said:
So does that mean I can prep 2-300 emails and just start sending them every 10-15 seconds at the start of the ganza witout following it on the forum? :confused:
It was my understanding that if you fired an early email it put you at the end of the line and basically took you out of the ganza.
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Technically... You could. BUT, you'd probably only get to do it once, 'cause if you did that then everyone else would start doing it, and what a huge mess for Amy to sort through and process... Amy sends emails out to everyone whether you scored or not and has to keep track of all those incoming and duplicate emails. I imagine that after the first, maybe second time, Jerry might start a new rule limiting the amount of early emails one could send before winding up at the back of the line if someone were to start sending hit-or-miss emails in mass quantities.

(Did that make sense? I'm drinkin' Tito's over here... :D)

Balislinger said:
From what I've heard, Jaxx is right. Early emails don't hurt you unless you sent it early and never sent another one. If you correct your mistake, your email sent after the Ganzaa go still counts in its usual order. Under this scenario, you could, technically, send an email every 15 seconds, but something tells me that Amy would stick you at the very back of the line herself, and maybe keep you there :eek:
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Yep... I could definitely see that happening... ;) And you DON'T want to be on Amy's LIST!! :eek::p
 
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we also sorted by sender and deleted all but the first legal entry and deleted all the rest

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so when we posted the GO we waited for a couple of hours or so. then we sorted by sender and deleted all but his/her first legal email. then we resorted by delivery time and started filling orders. if someone canceled we tossed him out and the next guy moved in. we saved all emails till every knife was delivered.

your computer time makes no difference, your isp time stamp also makes no diff, the time that matters is the time it goes into amy's computer.

having the correct time in front of you only helps when jerry can not post a "GO" and you have to submit at 9:55+

+1 on not pissing amy off or trying to trick the system, she's not nice when she's pissed. :eek:



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Thanks Skunk. My computer does not seem to apply a new timestamp to emails as they come in, because emails that are older in the queue sometimes have a more recent timestamp, leading me to believe that it is the sender's timestamp that is preserved. In any case, my inbox does not organize emails by timestamp, but by the order they come in. Newer emails show up in my inbox that have older timestamps than the email they follow. Why this assumption that Amy's computer does assign a new timestamp to each email that comes in? If it works like mine, an email with an older timestamp could be listed ahead of emails with more recent timestamps. I can't assume hers does it any differently.
 
beats me, my email program sorts by
status
subject
message
author
date
i can click on any of those and get an accurate sort. if i leave town to go fishing my orders are sorted by date and match up perfect with the form of payment log.


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