Need to attach some handle scales...

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I made a big chopper for myself and had some fun hacking apart logs with it, but last night while trying to baton a few of them into more manageable chunks, the scales popped off :grumpy:

Evidently 2 ton epoxy and quarter inch micarta pins aren't enough to hold micarta scales in place under that much stress.

What could I try that would work better?
 
Any metal mechanical fastener- the aforementioned bolts, screws, or peened pins.
 
Prep is the key with epoxy along with the shelf life. The two ton stuff has a short shelf life and could be the problem. A good epoxy bond should take a lot of abuse. I use mechanical fasteners too just so I feel good about everything.
 
Prep is the key with epoxy along with the shelf life. The two ton stuff has a short shelf life and could be the problem. A good epoxy bond should take a lot of abuse. I use mechanical fasteners too just so I feel good about everything.

I agree! I always use a mechanical bond as back up. Makes me feel better knowing its there.
 
In my opinion, epoxy is just not sufficient for securing handle slabs. It MIGHT work well, it SHOULD work well, but often it doesn't.
I would rather use mechanical fasteners.
 
I use mechanical fasteners as my first approach, and only use epoxy when needed - either to hold out moisture (like in a kitchen knife) or when it is going to be a hard working camp knife. Otherwise, I use three stainless pivot bolts with torx button head screws. I seat these in counterbored holes that have a small washer to spread the load. Assuming you've bored the holes accurately and tightened the screws, this attachment can be extremely strong.

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Prep is the key

I did some test a while back on how well epoxy holds scales on. The ones that was cleaned real good before I attached scales have a great bond, I have several knives that I have hit the scales with 75 hammer blows and they are still good. The ones I tried to attach with minimal prep will not stand up to the hammer blows, they pop off after just a few hits of the hammer.
These were test knives made with stabilized spalted maple, acraglass and no pins. My test showed me a well preped blade is VERY important.
 
I use micarta pins and GFlex epoxy a lot. I've not seen one handle pop off to be replaced since I started. That G-flex epoxy is really good. Its hard to chisel the handle off.
 
Prep is the key with epoxy along with the shelf life. The two ton stuff has a short shelf life and could be the problem. A good epoxy bond should take a lot of abuse. I use mechanical fasteners too just so I feel good about everything.

That could be the issue... I used up the last bit of some epoxy that has been open for a few months.
 
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