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Today i showed two people my bencmade mini afck...big mistake. now i know theres another thread movin about flipping, but i dont do that. anyway, the two people i showed my knife to the first thing they did is flip it out HARD... i mean so hard that they almost lost the knife. well... each person did that like twice before i took it back.. and now when i open it normally the liner already travels all the way to the right..... not surprising... there was probably pieces of titanium flying off when they had it... anyway... i dont understand why someone feels they have to open a knife like that... its ridiculous.... its like "oh man, thats a knife.... gotta flip it out as hard as i can" i dunno.... perhaps ive had a bad day... but it was ridiculous.... anyone else feel this way or shall i just shut up? hehe... what do ya think
 
Well, now you know ... there's a BIG difference between showing someone your knife, and letting them actually touch it ...
 
I think you're mostly talking about common courtesy or basic ignorance. Respect for others and their belongings is far more rare than it used to be. I think we've become a throw-away, junkyard oriented society in many ways. So much of what we "consume" is based on planned obsolescence.

Sorry to hear their treatment apparently damaged your knife. Must be awfully aggravating.


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Bugs
 
Since people have generally lost respect for the property of others, I either just show it to them while I hold it, or if they ask I say ok but it costs xxx and if you break it you bought it.

Dave
 
People have done the same with my knives, and I cringe to see it. They do not understand the value of the knife, either monetary, practical, or sentimental. They do not understand (as everyone here does) "knife handling etiquette." As much as it bothers us to see our knives treated in such a fashion, these are not necessarily disrespectful people, just uninformed. It is our job to educate them (what are the chances that the two people mentioned have a clue what liner wear is?), or keep our knives away from them (you wouldn't hand a gun to someone who didn't know anything about guns, would you?). I think the best thing to do is try to explain to them why that is not the proper way to open a knife and why. Although sometimes I just pocket my knife and walk away, shaking my head.

Look at it this way - those two people taught you a lesson. Maybe at some point you'll return the favor, if not, you still learned something.


Jason aka medusaoblongata
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Some people just gotta do things.

You can guess my reaction when my co-worker asked to see my new sebenza, then stabbed its tip into the wood surface of his desk. Hard. When I asked him (in a very controlled voice) why he did a dumb thing like that, he just shook his head.

No damage to the knife though, although I'm sure my blood pressure went up a few points...

Andrew L

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Metacarpals, I feel your pain. I had a friend try to flick open my 705 and drop it. luckily no damage to the knife except a flake off of the G10. redvenom, I don't know if I would have been able to have seen that. I think that I would have cracked. I hate when people mess with stuff that isn't theres.
Matt
 
Well there sure have been some great examples on why not to let uninformed users handle your knives.
I have had quite a few experiences that made me cringe a little bit but none were that serious. But the one that pushed me over the edge was when a friend asked to see my knife so I handed him my Benchmade 710 and he then started scraping JB Weld off an intake manifold from his car engine! I immediately grabbed the knife from him and got an "appropriate" tool for the job.
From that incident on, I carry a "Loaner" knife (something cheap) that I let people use instead of handing them an expensive knife.
woody
 
Most people who ask to borrow a knife from me automatically tell me why at the same time. I have them trained. Every time someone would ask for a knife, I'd ask 'what are you going to use it for'. After recieving an answer, I'd hand them the appropriate type of knife (that is why I carry several knives - different ones have different uses), or tell them to get the right tool for the job. It's so much easier, now, because they all realise that I will insist on knowing the reason, so they just tell me without having to be asked.

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Oh come on!

I "flick" my AFCK as hard as anyone can probably a dozen times a day on average and have for about four years now. That thing's as solid as the day it was made.

To even suggest that a couple of hard flicks could phase an AFCK is sacrilege. Go wash your mouth out with soap for even suggesting it. And not that girly soap with oatmeal, honey, and avacados. That's a salad, not a soap. No. I'm talkin' about some real, manly soap with pumice and coal tar oil in it.


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I guy i work with identified my MT SOCOM from just seeing the pocket clip in my pocket and asked to see it. Obviously he was knowledgable about knives right? WRONG. He proceeded to press the button only to have the knife fly out of his inept hands. Luckily he was sitting in a HMMWV at the time and it just landed on the floor no damage lucky for him.
 
Some people need to learn respect. I was a the Trexpo west this year and I was there on the range day. When I was standing in line a younger guy (no offence to young people, I only 20 too) asked to see my knife (it was inverted on my alice pack in a pouch) I said sure and let him see it. I never see anyone slam a knife open that hard before. **** he used a full arm swing. The thing was still new, and now locks up in the middle and not at the edge. WTF what if it slipped out of this idots hand it could of really hurt or killed someone. Fing kids no of days have no damn respect. I only know a few young people that have total respect for other people. Its a shame.

$0.2 from Matt

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after losing a crkt mirage and a buck odysey, having people damage them, and cutting themselves, NO ONE touches my knives,with the expception of other knife knuts. If they want to cut something,ill cut it for them, but i will NOT let them use it.

friend of mine cut himself very badly on the finger with an m-16,even after i told him it was a giant razor blade.(shakes head ina disappointed manner)
 
Most of my coworkers are scared to use my knives. The general concensus is that "they are too sharp"
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And the ones that do ask, ALWAYS tell me what it will be used for, just because they know I will freak out and scream on them up and down if they use them for something they shouldn't be used for.

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Strange thing I find is that I'm far more trusting letting my female friends handle my knives than the male friends. The girls respects my knives, almost as if they're afraid of them, and they're super careful with them, no flicking or any fast motions, and careful controlled cutting. Really nice, one of them is is on the way to being a knife knut, so I think it's working out. On the other hand, the first thing the guys want to do is flick the knife or do some fancy crap/stupid stuff with it. They also don't understand the words "careful, it's very sharp", and one co-worker at KFC a few years back lost the tip of one finger to my mini-AFCK while trying to twirl the knife thru his fingers.


Eaphan [confused male knife owner]
 
I think it makes sense to keep the fact I carry a knife to myself. I see no good that can come from others being aware that I carry. This also affords the benefit of them not wanting to see or borrow my knife.
 
Einstein said that the only two things in life that were never ending were the universe and human stupidity, and he wasn't so sure about the universe.
I was working right outside the front entrance to the county courthouse, when I noticed a woman standing on the other side of the door, just staring out. At first I thought that I or one of my tools was in the way of the glass door, but that wasn't it. After another minute, I stood up, opened the door, and asked her if I could help. She said that she wasn't sure if she could go out the door, because it said "CLOSED". I looked, and sure enough, both of the front doors have those plastic hanging reversable signs, marked closed on one side, open on the other. Unbelievable. The worst part was she then hopped in a shiny new SUV and sped off into town.
 
After many 'bad' experiences I let only a select few people even touch my knives.
Most people in the general population, it seems; are either uninformed, idiots, or uninformed idiots when it comes to knives. Even some people who should 'know' better never cease to amaze me. Sad but true....
It was hard for me to learn, but now the fine art of saying "NO" comes very easy.
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