New 302s, In hand critical review

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I wish I had a nice knife store within driving distance that was a Buck supporter, I would go and hand pick any new model or year code 300.
I get my knives thru the mail like a lot of people. I recieve what ever Buck has packaged and comes my way. That said here is my first look, in hand review of the four new model 302s I recieved.

To refresh the memory of those who weren't tempted by the single blade prototype sales on the Buck website. The 302 is the number of the new single blade, 301 sized slipjoint. They come in Charcoal Dymondwood, Red Dymondwood Chairman series, Black sawcut standard and yellow smooth Valox scale. It appears to me the pivot pins may be slightly larger in diameter than the past, but I did not measure.
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All four of my knives are stamped with 2010 date stamps. Remember these are 301 clone clip blades. Right away I noticed
my scales on the Charcoal Dymondwood knife were different side to side. The photo below shows the reverse scale.
I actually would have prefered two scales that looked like that one. I realize its a production knife but can't something be done to better match scales.
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The same knife also showed minor sratching around one scale rivet that was visible on casual exam and small scratches were present along the high point of the DYW scale, as if they were left over from riding on a steel tray or workbench. Maybe I am just wishing for the special attention the prototypes received, that Dymondwood was finished prefectly.
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The red Chairman Series model matched well, but lacked the Blue Avid shield as shown in the new catalog and on several web knife seller sites. It appears the new model was to have the Chairman laser cut signature on one side and the shield on the other. My red Chairman came with an unacceptable scratch, not made by me, on one bolster.
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All of the knives came in plastic sleeves, but do not come with leather sheaths as do the stockman. On handling the 302 black sawcut version, my fingertips quickly noticed a high rivet that would catch my finger surface.
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I would like to see a better finish on the old knife,bolt and hammer shield also. On close exam it appears almost to be a unpolished, powdered metal type finish. It gives the appearance of dull grey.
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The Yellow valox scaled knife was mint. It would be my choice for slipjoint of the year. It just looks like a pocketknife my granddad would have carried. If I was a rich man I would buy every Boy Scout in town one.
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Remember these are the knives I recieved and by no means would you find the same imperfections. I usually leave the over critical discussion to others but this is the way my four knives came to me. The scratch on the bolster of the Chairman series was a little bit of a surprise as they tout this model to be of a higher grade than others. I did not make it and it did not happen in shipping.

These are slim, stout springed, single blade slipjoints. They will meet the test of time. If you are wanting a slim knife the size of a 301 stockman, one of these will fit the bill. I know there are folks out there that will really like owning, carrying and using one. As has occurred in the past some of these trouble-some issues seem to disappear with additional production.

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Thanks 300 for the write up and details on these 302's . Your photos are top noch as well . DM
 
300,
Thanks for the write up, I picked up two of the build outs and put them away in the collector box. I will be picking up a Yellow 302 for an EDC as soon as I can determine the cheapest dealer to order from. If anyone has a link to a cheap one please im or e-mail a link. Thanks, I am on a verry tight budget right now as I had to have shoulder surger on 2/3/2011 so not a whole lot of money to play with.. Take care Buck Bro's.
 
300, good write up and pics as always. One question, is that glue or trim between the bolster and scale of the chairman? And if it is glue, is the gap noticible or just the exceptionally clear and close pic makes it look larger than it is?

Fritz
 
Thanks for the review 300.I agree the bolt& hammer shield should be polished.That alone would give the knife a lot of mileage in the eye appeal department against the black handle.Those protruding rivets look like a quality control problem and I bet Buck will be happy you brought that to their attention.
 
Good eye Fritz,

I was so focused on the scratch I overlooked that. ('It takes a village to raise a child, I mean review a knife')

On the Chairman 302, three scale edges are tight as a tick, the one in question shows a glue gap, which would be less noticeable but it looks like the glue did not come level with bolster/scale edges by the distance of a nats eyebrow. It appears IF the very thin glue line was up to the top and polished level it would almost be un-noticable. There is a tiny 'raising' of the scale on one corner, maybe call it , slight 'warpage' right at the glue line in the bolster-liner corner. I can photo it if needed. It also would take good light and some magnifaction to see.

I was holding the Chairman to a more critical level than the others since the catalogs use terms in there descriptions that lead you to think this one gets extra attention.

The prototype single blade 301s in Dymondwood were the finest finished DW knives I have ever handled. I am assuming they received extra attention as prototypes and these are production standards.

Remember I am looking at these very critically, more so than you would in hand. Most of you don't go around wearing a jewelers loup (5X) on you head.

300
 
Well 300, they should be looked at critically. It seems Buck has had 1st run blues with some bugs to work out, the vantage and csar both struggled out of the gate. I love Buck of course and they always make it right, but I'd think on new or "premium" models especially, they'd be extra carefull...this shouldnt happen.:(
 
Craig, Where did you get your 5X lens ? With the head set I've only been able to find a 3X and would like the 5X . Thanks . DM
 
I usually answer questions off subject like this with private email, but David brings up a question someone else may want to know. Here is picture of headset loup I use on details, especially as I coast toward SS age. My father was going to watch makers school when ww2 started so I have been around loups my whole life. Here is QUICK photo of mine.
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As David said it is hard to find more than 3X without paying big specialization prices.
The fold-down lens gives me 5X in one eye. I have seen all sorts of fly fishing magnifers that would be useful in knife work and you can even buy magnifacation glasses in most large drug stores, as stated usually stopping at 3X. I had my fathers old pair that finally broke so I could not repair them and I bought this headset either from the gunsmith catalog Brownells or at Amazoo-on. I also have 3.5 in dia hand held mag glass. And a small fold out mag glass, like you see the geologists use on TV. It can be nice to have at knife shows, looking at worn date codes, tang stamps, etc.
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Thanks for the review 300. I'm passing this onto my shop so they can watch out for these things. I know the scratch did not leave the shop like that and it is at the spot where it would have been on the lasering machine which is the last step before packaging. Adding the shield on the chairman's will happen on a running change. Just makes yours more collectable eventually :)
 
The small hand held loupes are fairly cheap. Can get 10 to 30x in some.

Any Buck collector needs one..:D
 
Craig, Thanks, I've seen those in Amazon as well just didn't know if they worked . I'll get one for mine now that I know . DM
 
What did the prototypes sell for?

I think I picked mine up for $20 each.


300,
Is there any real difference between what you are reviewing here and the prototypes offered as web specials a while back?

Thanks for taking the time to run all this down. Great information.
 
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