OBX351, thanks for the tips, I almost asked for a refund several times, I didn't see how the wait could possibly be worth it, but I figured I'd wait to cancel until at least one of the 4 knives I ordered came so I could see for myself what all the fuss was about. I received a shipping notice Thursday, for the CPM 154 4.7 and just got the mail and opened the box ten minutes ago. WOW! This is a nice knife, it blows Bark River out of the water. I will be shutting my mouth now and waiting patiently for the other 4.7, 4.1 and 8. This has been the most frustrating buying experience I've had for anything I've ever purchased and I honestly thought I was just going to sell most of these after I got them because it wasn't worth the wait and I've seen what they go for on eBay. I think I'll keep them now. I was wrong, you guys were right, it's worth the wait.