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orvet

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I was in a medium size box store a couple days ago, (a chain in the Pacific NW), and asked to see a CRKT knife displayed in their case along with the chitaylor Schrades. When the clerk opened his back stock door I spotted a couple blue & tan Schrade boxes among the chitaylors. I asked to see one of them, a 33OT. The clerk claimed that all their stock was now from china, a fact that he was not happy about. I examined the knife which was stamped:
SCHRADE
U.S.A. 33OT
I noticed some tarnish on the blade and pointed it out to the clerk. He said, "Yep, that is salt water damage. That happens when they ship them here from overseas."
I had him take out a chitaylor 33OT and the markings were different with the 33OT stamped on the reverse tang of the main blade. The knife had the flat engraved Old Timer shield inlaid into the handle, unlike the chinee knife which had raised lettering on the shield and raised dots around the edge of the shield.
I told him I thought it was old stock and American made. He was sceptical but didn't argue with me.
I purchased the knife for the price of their chitaylor 33OT which was $16.89, approximately $13.00 less than what they had sold the USA 33OT for.
I went away happy with my new USA 33OT. :D
I have a 33OT that I carried for years but didn't have a new-in-box.

I guess this just goes to show that there are still some REAL Schrades out there even though the merchant might not acknowledge the fact.
 
Dale, feel free to add the name of the chain to the 'Sticky' at the top of our page. This is where we post sources for 'real' schrades as we find them. You may be able to help another forum member out. Congrats on the find!
Phil
 
Dale, that is a George Schrade Stagbrand (sometimes marked Schradebrand) #1 "bird and trout". It was the first in a matched series of five, each one having a slightly larger blade than the previous model. The largest, still modestly sized, is a 5" blade. The smallest two were "medium guage" blades, and flat ground. The middle size, #3, was a flat ground "heavy guage", and the last two were "heavy guage" and saber ground. Schrade Cut Co., and later Schrade Walden Cutlery continued the larger of these for quite some time after the demise of Geo. Schrade Knife Co. And of course Western and every other American knife company made their own similar designs. There was an additional three patterns with simulated deer horn handles (#11, 12, 13) "having all the beauty and feel of genuine horn and the durability of styrene". The original Staglon!

Codger (the Fixedbladeophile Schradophile)
 
Codger, Codger, Codger.....

Sigh. :o

I'm still holding out hope for a cure for your fixation.

Bill
 
OK, Bill. I give up. I can't stand the bright light, but here is something I just picked up. It says "Ulster USA". What is it?

c o d g e r

 
A 204? My first Barlow? Or is it an electrician's knife? Nope, no hidden message. Did Ulster make fixed blades?:D

Codger
 
Codger my man,

You are a na...tur...all... born celebrity, you just gotta get used to the bright lights. :D And, I understand and admire your passion for FIXED blades...(do you have any IDEA how hard that was for me to type???).

Speaking of Barlows...I just picked up a 1980 Ducks scrimmed barlow...SCC..USA SC506.....it is a cool barlow. Does anyone know if it's stainless or carbon? I like it mucho, no matter!!

Bill
 
Nice knife Bill.
I have one from 1986 (according to the seller) and I think it is stainless. It shows no sign of tarnish yet, though it does have a good coat of oil on the blades. At any rate I am with you, "I like it mucho' also. :thumbup:

Mike,
Thanks for the info on the 153. I figured a guy who is FIXated like you would know what it was. :D
Do you know the dates of manufacturers?
Your Ulster looks like a couple military 'electrician' knives I have. One is a Camillus, the other is an Kutmaster, both of which I picked up in the Marine Corps. I also have a Queen which is very close and a Craftsman with brown derlin handles in a wood grain pattern. They are all very close in design. I am thinking the Craftsman was made by Schrade. Maybe LT knows for sure.
 
El Lobo said:
Codger my man........ you just gotta get used to the bright lights. :D And, I understand and admire your passion for FIXED blades....understand and admire your passion for FIXED blades....understand and admire your passion for FIXED blades....understand and admire your passion for FIXED blades....understand and admire your passion for FIXED blades....understand and admire your passion for FIXED blades....

Bill
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An awfully big man to make such an admission on an international forum, Bill! And about those lights...perhaps you should think about deleting scorpions from your diet. I understand they are insectivores, which leads me to wonder if maybe they eat those bugs inhabiting peyote and mescal. Peyote, as you might remember, is said to "enlighten a man", as evidenced by the writings of Carlos, leading partakers to say such profound things as "OH Wow Man!".

Oh, and if the knife is a C2141SD (204-206), the screwdriver blade locks, making it a fixed blade according to Her Majesties Parliment.

Codger (The fixalator):D
 
OH, OH,

My head is spinning! It's the same words over and over...coming back to haunt me! I was in an altered state after a couple of glasses of Claret. It doesn't really count...does it? (This is my version of FOLDING my tent.)

As always, thank you Mike, for the well intentioned dietary hint...but, I can't give up scorpions. I'm retired, and live on a FIXED income, and they are a good source of...hmmm...something , I'm pretty sure. Maybe it is peyote after all?

Oh, and who the heck is this Majestic Partyman?? He sounds like a guy I knew in Hollyweird in the late 60's. He said HE was enlightened. I don't think he collected Schrades though. :cool:

Bling
 
I've recovered from my admission to Mike enough to post this picture:

Here (thumbnail below) is the 506 Barlow I just picked up.....

It was honestly stated by the seller that a portion of the scrimshaw was missing...but I liked the elegance of the knife anyway. It does still have Mr. Frank Giorgianni's name completely visible in the lower right portion of the work. The reverse has a scrimshaw that looks like a spot for initials maybe.

It is my first Schrade Barlow, and I think it is very cool, and a well made knife.

Bill
 
Those Barlows are nice, I only have two Barlows: a one bladed Boker and my epoxy rehandled Imperial Ireland (actually "Stag Ireland"), I would have bought the Schrade I saw at Plaza Cutlery years ago but I was on a low budget....

He he, Bill and Codger, If you finally convince each other you may find yourselves competing when bidding on ebay too...

Luis

"Menos burros, mas olotes"
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"Less donkeys, more corncobs"
 
Dale,
Nice knife...I think you may have gotten a better deal. :thumbup:

Lewis, er, ah, Luis....that is quite an unusual signature line you used. You must explain it to me over a Padron cigar and a glass of Patron someday.

Guillermo
 
"Menos burros mas olotes".

He he, I guess I'll have to explain what was in my mind there....

Olote is the cob after the corn grains have been removed and is given to donkeys to eat, if there are less burros, each Burro gets more olotes. The phrase is often used in Mexico when someone does not accept something, like: "thanks I don't want any beer", it's as if there were one person less (one less burro) and that means that there will be more beer (more olotes) for the rest of us.

I was making fun about the preference for either fixed blades or folders, If Codger does not want folders, that means more folders available to the rest of us, If Bill does not want fixed blades, that's more fixed blades available to the rest of us.

To refer to knives as "olotes" and people as "burros", well, that's just a joke....

Memo (that's short for Guillermo here), I have presently no plans to travel to the USA, but If you ever come to Mexico City make sure you tell me and I will have the smoke and booze ready.

Luis
 
Codger, it is my understanding that if your knife shown above is stamped Ulster, USA it is a TL-29 (had a shackle) and it is an electrician’s knife. If the knife was stamped Schrade Cut Co it would be a 2041SD (did not have a shackle) and if it were stamped Schrade Walden it would be a 204. The 204 was without a shackle, the 204SHA would be with a shackle.
Hope this helps,
Tom
 
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